A series of Homestuck-related AMAs (Ask Me Anything) by official and borderline official people.
JAMES: Hi, James here. Welcome to the first HS:BC AMA. We're excited to be here! This thread will go up a little early to gather some questions, but We'll start Answering things around 2PM pst. Here is who's on deck:
James, Director
Kim, Art Director
Andi, Artist
Chumi, Artist
Haven, Artist and Writer
Floral, Writer and Artist
Miles, Writer
Kohi, Webmaster
So go ahead, ask us anything! (About Homestuck)
Q: I've found that one of the biggest hanging questions of the original ending, which some of the old patreon updates touched on, is how this new world was put together.
I understand that this is a story about kids and their kids now, but Earth C is... Well, The Earth. And apparently it was segmented into four kingdoms? Where are those kingdoms? How have they run for 5,000 years while the kids skipped ahead?
Jane is Not-President in one world, but is actually president in the other? Is that of the whole world? What's the actual power structure and geography at work?
Put simply: Is there a desire to dig into the worldbuilding of Earth-C in both timelines, to explain how it all functions as a society, beyond the patreon update that effectively said "Automated Socialism, but no longer"?
MILES: I think that a lot of how we want to explore this is in the way that the omega kids talk to each other. I'm hoping to have them pepper a lot of references to the society they came from into their dialogue so as to let us allude passively (and occasionally actively) to that world.
FLORAL: Miles said it best, there is definitely thoughts and discussions we've had about Earth C but one of the things I love about Homestuck is how it feeds this information to you in really natural ways.
Q: I know the team gets a lot of questions along the lines of "how are you going to improve story X" or "can you please fix Y?" and by now is probably sick of hearing them. But I, and likely dozens of other fans, want to know something much more important to Homestuck: What are some of the things the team is excited about making WORSE?
ANDI: grins evilly
MILES: grins evilly
HAVEN: grins evilly
CHUMI: 𝖌𝖗𝖎𝖓𝖘 𝖊𝖛𝖎𝖑𝖑𝖞
FLORAL: *crashes my car into your house*
JAMES: what the fuck
Q: James: What pushed you and the others into picking this project back up?
Kim: Are you intending to push for new artstyles that mirror the spirit of Homestuck but defy the usual conventions (as you guys have so far) similar to how Hussie continued to try and innovate new styles for various moments?
Andi, Chumi, Haven, and Floral: Who's your favorite character to draw, and do you have a favorite godtier outfit you're looking forward to drawing? And/or a favorite moment?
Haven, Floral, and Miles: Who are your favorite characters to write, and how do you feel about your grasp on them? Are you looking forward to growing the universe and seeing where it goes and how you can further defy narrative conventions and embody the spirit of HS in your own way?
Kohi: How is it working on the web treating you? Are you looking forward to the possibility (slight, but not out of the question) of breaking a site again like Hussie did by working together on this project? Further, what sites do you wish you could advertise HS^2 on if you could? Alongside this, what kinds of difficulties do you have to deal with maintaining the servers and site?
JAMES: I think the easy answer is we just really love Homestuck, also Andrew asked me specifically to do it. I handpicked this team because I thought they truly understood what made Homestuck good. Wow they are typing so much in this google doc. I'm watching the words fill out like little ants.
KIM: Absolutely! I've been thinking a lot about this actually! Homestuck is such a living piece of work that's constantly evolving, including the artwork as well. I love that while so far we have been drawing in a way that is very reminiscent of Andrew Hussie's early Homestuck art, I really wanted to emphasize to all the artists that we should also strike a balance taking a lot of our own artistic liberties and just go crazy with it illustratively. No spoilers, but there's a certain part of the story we DEFINITELY want to go wild and experimental with it LOL.
CHUMI: My favorite character to draw is Jade!!! Harley!!! hehe. ✌️ Other than the obvious answer, probably Aradia! And a favorite GTier outfit.... I'd say Vrissy's! Take that as you will, hehe.
ANDI: I really like drawing Aradia, I love drawing big hair. She's very fun!! I don't like a lot of god tier outfits lol. But when I do draw them, you know I'm gonna go incredibly hard..
HAVEN: my favorite characters to draw in fanart are dave, karkat, vriska and aradia but since starting working on the comic panel-wise my favorite characters to draw are The Alternate Calliope and kanaya. I'm looking forward to drawing vriska's god tier more.
FLORAL: Personally, I really gravitate towards Space players along with John. They really lean into my wheelhouse with how subtle their voices are. Not to mention I love “""nice""" characters because their motivations require a lot of nuance. I also love writing Karkat because he's closest to my own sense of humor.
I am so so excited to work with the universe of Homestuck. I love the themes of OG HS so much and I love discussing what it means to make a story. *rubbing my hands together*
As for the art question, I love drawing Jade, Kanaya and Karkat 8). Jade is one of my fave godtier outfits too.
HAVEN: honestly it's kind of a cop out answer but i really love writing literally every character, this is all a dream come true. I find myself enjoying every character more as i get chances to write them, recently The Alternate Calliope in particular has been really fun for me.
MILES: I love writing almost anyone, but I think one of my surprise new passions has been writing Dirk, who hasn't shown up much at all in the comic yet, but (spoiler alert!!!!!!!!!!!) will. Everyone is fun, though. I think one of my best strengths as a writer is character voice, to say nothing of the fact that I'm one of the millions of us who has a Homestuck Lobe of my brain.
Where the story/universe is concerned, I am more excited than you could possibly fucking imagine. We have some really, really incredible stuff coming both insofar as we're continuing the plot we inherited and jumping into new stuff. It's a huge honor, folks on the team can tell you that I'm constantly geeked about it.
KOHI: Working on the site has been pretty rewarding! As far as breaking the site goes, obviously that's something that no web developer wants to see happen, but the Homestuck fandom takes it in stride and finds it more amusing than detrimental. With site maintenance difficulties, the biggest challenges are making sure to respond to any alerts that pop up for our VPSes, as well as any new CVEs that pop up. Y'know, typical routine routine webdev stuff.
Q: When is the Homestuck x Fortnite Collab?
ANDI: NOW!!!!! Sorry I got excited at a hypothetical.
ANDI: But really, if its gonna happen, we need to make homestuck even bigger than the peak of 2014. If we can do it once, we can do it again, yall have crashed websites before. C'mon. Don't you wanna see that limited edition god tier john skin hit the griddy? Could you imagine a vrillyhoo pickaxe?
MILES: You guys are literally our only hope of this. Please don't let us down.
JAMES: demand homestuck in fortnite anyway heres what im thinking for the first drop. Typically fortnite collab drops come in threes. Obviously John has to be one, but we have to have at least one troll. I'd say Terezi, because she has the most alt outfits. Backbling would be a perfectly generic object or Casey. The emote would be a traversal Ghost Pogo Ride
Q: Hi James. Can we expect interactive (Flash) pages in the near future? I do understand it's not as easy as it sounds but I'm still curious.
JAMES: “NEAR?" future? How about this. We have at least one planned. I'm committing everyone to it by saying this.
Q: Many of you have been involved in homestuck fanworks in the past (and continuing into the present.) How different does it feel, working on HSBC? Does it feel basically the same as working on fanworks, or does the level of "official-ness" make it feel different for you? How much of a dividing line do you draw there, mentally? I'm interested in all of y'alls personal perspectives on this!
CHUMI: I would say it's quite different! The “officialness" is something that's a little intimidating for me, knowing that this thing I've drawn will be seen by many, MANY people and forever regarded as canon. It does affect how I tackle each storyboard and panel. Of course it's still very exciting though! Being part of Homestuck is a dream come true, and I want to convey how much I love our stuff and Homestuck through my work! I'd say I'm learning a lot! 😀
KIM: It's definitely different making something as a fan vs making something officially LOL. I think what's important to consider is that since a wider audience is involved, you have to take into account that a lot of story decisions are now very crucial. Especially if there's anything I know from being a fan of Homestuck of 10+ years, we as fans LOVE to theorize on all the little details– so we gotta be very intentional too! I'm very much the kind of person who loves to play in the realm of non-canon, so I very much compartmentalize what I'd like to keep for myself as a fan to play with VS. what we make canon.
KOHI: There are a lot of similarities that carry over between any kind of collaborative work like this, but the fun has been seeing the different workflows and processes that the members of the team have brought with them. This is a craft where you're always improving yourself and those working with you through these nuances. The “official-ness" brings with it an inherent weight of responsibility, sure, but I think we'd be giving our best work regardless.
FLORAL: Personally, with my fanwork projects that process is definitely a bit different and I actively try to approach it differently too. With the Liminal Space comics, the mentality is to interact with the source material in a format and subject style that is contradictory. It's all about the inbetweens and the quiet moments of Homestuck canon. Fanwork feels like a suggestion for other readers to try out a new perspective. The fun of official work is separating from that and working with the larger team about what feels right and true. It's not about “look at this fun thought I had" but moreso how I would approach original work. “This is a functioning, finely tuned narrative that people will be interacting with as source material." It's really fun this switch up and I love working on Homestuck with other people. Fa work is isolating honestly(at least how ive always done it) but now we can all celebrate and be excited together.
Q: Is hussie still "involved"
HAVEN: andrew is in our discord
ANDI: He's around!
JAMES: he makes me do things every day :c
Q: how many acts are you planning to have?
is HSBC gonna be smaller than homestuck, or comparable in size?
MILES: HSBC is going to be LONG, for sure, at the very least temporally. Looking at our plans for the plot structure right now I can't imagine it's going to take us less than three years of regular updates, but it could end up stretching longer. You're going to be happy for that, trust me. I'm gonna be saying this a lot, but we have So Much Neat Shit to get through.
HAVEN: a stupid amount, we look at the outline and start laughing like “hahaha they don't even know bro..."
FLORAL: You guys can't imagine. That said....no Act 6 Act 6 Act 6. Everyone promise me right now...
Q: are we gonna see more of the mystery species the OG Hs^2 teased at?
HAVEN: they died its over
MILES: You actually just missed them. They were sooooooo cool...
HAVEN: tragic
JAMES: disregard these jokers. these tricksters. completely unhelpful.
Q: do you have plans of doing more spin-offs like pesterquest and friendsim?
with homestuck having such a large universe, there is a lot of spin-off potential in the dancestors, earth C, ghosts, ghosts, etc.
MILES: We are going to make a Homestuck Gacha game. I refuse to word this as a hypothetical. We are going to make a Homestuck Gacha game.
HAVEN: we discuss homestuck gacha literally every meeting
ANDI: its not a joke.
JAMES: GACHA GAME GACHA GAME
KIM: I don't think we have any plans set in stone currently, but I would LOVE spin-offs that expand the world. I (personally) want more Alternia-based spin-off adventures because I love thinking about troll lore, hehe. Realistically, I think with any further projects, we should tackle those once we have our bearings together and perhaps when our current projects are winding down. We're just in the beginning and we're just a small team!
Q: what are you going to do with ult dirk. i mean he's done some fucked up shit. also bgd in candy
MILES: What is ult!Dirk going to do with US? I don't control him. I just write him.
HAVEN: filling him with milk slapping him against the wall and sucking the milk out
MILES: Not if I suck him first...
FLORAL: I dont like it here.
JAMES: man. I fucking hate you guys.
Q: Was changing Calliope's cheeks from full to swirls a result of a changing story direction or just because it was a visual error on behalf of the old team that slipped through the cracks?
HAVEN: yes to both
JAMES: thanks haven
Q: Will there be any more canon fantrolls?
HAVEN: only ours
CHUMI: Yeah I'm gonna put myself in the comic somewhere, multiple times hopefully.
ANDI: Where's Wally except the teams ocs or something.
KIM: If you got a keen eye, I already put one in LOL. : )
MILES: They're not fantrolls if they're canon, now, are they?
FLORAL: mine is in one of the bonus updates. Nepotism.
JAMES: in a sense they are all my fantrolls now
Q: I heard about SAHCon and you guys partnering up. How are things going to go next year?
MILES: Things are gonna go so badly and everyone's going to regret it and I'm going to cry and pee my pants. Or maybe it'll be awesome. We're excited nonetheless.
JAMES: I wish you guys would stop talking about pissing yourselves. We're excited to be reaching out to different communities. We want to showcase more fan stuff because I think its the fans that really make this all work.
Q: Will we see more horrorterrors again in beyond canon?
HAVEN: yes
MILES: Hope they don't see you....!
JAMES: thats spooky man
ANDI: Yikes!!!
FLORAL: * is devoured *
Q: is it true that the adult protagonists will be getting sprite redesigns (please don't tell me that big head John silhouette is real...)
HAVEN: its all real
ANDI: oh its all really real
Q: Ok last question: Will we see Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff again? X)
MILES: Real shit I'm gunning pretty hard for this.
JAMES: ok just for you
Q: Will y'all provide a commentary on the whole comic after beyond canon is finished just like what Andrew did with Homestuck at first? If so, how will it be formatted?
MILES: We'd love to! Not sure if we will but I think a retrospective would be a great thing at the end. We actually do writers commentary for every update right now, though; it's on the Patreon. You can see them if you give us money.
JAMES: We're gonna start posting them for free too. Right? Am I remembering that right? A few months after they go up initially we want to have them on the site for the non-paying fans as well
Q: What does Homestuck mean to you in 2023? Who's your target audience, and who would you love to get involved and interested?
JAMES: it means the same thing its meant to me the whole time i never left my target audience is me
ANDI: Homestuck as a story meant a lot to me growing up and I think now it means to me as a chance to revisit our favorite media with a fresh mind and to invite in fans old and new!! I think about how insane it is that the events have transpired in this way, my 14 year old self is shaking in their boots. We're so back.
MILES: Homestuck means everything to me. It's a story that hit me HARD when I started reading back in 2010 and was my whole life for a while. It remains one of my favorite stories ever, so getting to continue it and put some of myself back into it is a dream come true and feels very full-circle for me. Like, I get to write this now? What the fuck? Anyway you're all our targets... NONE of you are safe.
CHUMI: Homestuck is basically my house that I've lived in for over a decade and, in a sense, I've been stuck here perhaps? It began my journey as an artist, I've met so many friends, gained so much inspiration from others... It marked the beginning of everything for me, and I'm eternally grateful! Literally would not be an artist without HS and I don't know what that would be like. Our target audience is... you! And everyone else who has interest in HS, whether it be old or new. -^_^-
FLORAL: Homestuck is my dream come true tbh. It taught me a lot about being a writer and narrative and now it's asking me to use those years of thought to help make something new. My target audience is the hoes. I stole that from Miles. But forreal, I'd love to reconnect with old fans along with inspire new fans of Homestuck in general.
KIM: What Homestuck means to me, personally, it's like an open sandbox playground. By that, and I feel like I've said this so many times by now LOL, but I feel Homestuck is just so EXPANSIVE! The possibilities are honestly limitless within this universe, and I just love to create within it and that's what constantly keeps me invested and coming back as a creative. I think I'm honestly chasing the high of how creatively inspired the fandom was back in 2014, and it'd be so cool if we can continue to reach that audience of people who feel that creativity.
HAVEN: homestuck is one of my favorite stories of all time, that's something that's never wavered for me. My target audience is the oil oligarch interested in investing in us.
Q: In what year did each of you first read Homestuck? And would you have expected to still care about the comic in 2023?
For reference, I first read it in 2014 and I think I knew at heart it would become a lifelong obsession.
CHUMI: Probably around mid-2011, I saw my sister looking at a picture of dead Kanaya and that's what started it all! Adolescent me did not expect to be into the same thing 12 years later, but I'm glad I'm here!
KIM: I also first read it in 2011 when I kept seeing this Karkat guy showing up everywhere in my DeviantART feed and I needed to know who these gray motherfuckers were. I'm honestly pretty consistent with my interests, even when my interest would have waned for a couple years, I always had a foot in the door for the fandom.
MILES: I mentioned this earlier but I started reading in 2010. I caught up right before Bec Noir happened and that whole era leading into and including murderstuck was one of the best times to be an active reader in the entire life of the comic, at least in my experience. I knew I was obsessed at the time, but I think it'd still surprise young me how long I'd care. If I could travel back in time and tell myself I'd be writing the sequel I think young me would like... shit himself.
FLORAL: I first read Homestuck in 2012 but the hyperfixation wasn't real yet. I dropped it for quite a few years, in the beginning of Act 6. But then I reread around the end with Collide. I drew Dave taking a snapchat of President Karkat and it was over after that. I don't think there will ever be a time in my life I don't think about Jade Harley.
HAVEN: i saw xamag post sober gamzee on deviantart in 2011 and i was like “alright whats going on over there"
KOHI: I've been online for a while and saw Problem Sleuth and Homestuck in my periphery for a while but didn't start reading until mid-2010 when some friends of mine on a forum called BZPower collectively changed their avatars to the trolls. Started reading out of curiosity -- immediately sucked in.
JAMES: I read homestuck as it came out because I was a fan of problem sleuth. I'm the oldest person in the world.
Q: If you had to have Homestuck crossover with one other property, what would it be?
ANDI: Fortnite.
HAVEN: we need homestuck in fortnite more than literally anything
HAVEN: also vampire survivors
FLORAL: Hello Kitty. I would buy the fuck out of that.
CHUMI: Fire Emblem tbh. Fire Emblem Heroes for the Homestuck gacha of course.
KOHI: Surprising no one who knows me: BIONICLE.
KIM: Honestly... SO curious how Homestuck would look in Cookie Run.
JAMES: fortnite also
Q: Who are each one of your favorite trolls?
CHUMI: Feferi, Aradia, Karkat!
MILES: Vriska, Karkat, and Equius. And Gamzee, kind of, hes like... a meta-villain. Foe of the audience. A narrative device. A baby boy. A work of art.
HAVEN: vriska and aradia, karkat too i cant lie i love that dude
ANDI: Karkat, Terezi, Meenah, Sollux
JAMES: I don't have a favorite troll and I've never mentioned it.
FLORAL: Karkat and Kanaya
KIM: I'm a big Hiveswap fan, but I know you're probably asking for Hivebent trolls, so I'll answer for both LOL. For Hivebent, I'm diehard for Eridan and Feferi. For Hiveswap, you could say I'm a fan of Lanque and Mallek. : )
KOHI: Aradia and Terezi are up there. Swifer is also endearing to me for some reason.
Q: What are each of y'all's favorite meme/moments in hs fandom history??
My fave is baby dave everywhere
CHUMI: The deluge of askblogs, I remember that being my first BIG art endeavor as a preteen. I used to run askPeixes, but it's been ground into dust so hopefully none of you guys have seen that. If I remember correctly, the wave of HS askblogs kickstarted the general askblog trend, so it feels funny to be part of Tumblr history like that LOL.
FLORAL: I watched Cascade in the dark in my yearbook club classroom and celebrated all by myself. And the daily blogs were a big part of post Homestuck end fandom. I was in Daily Karkat and that was so fun!!
MILES: I said this before but reading Homestuck live during murderstuck was like... manic and frantic and unmatched. It felt insane.
HAVEN: caucasian update
JAMES: i liked it when they all spit in that bucket in that dennys
Q: Are there any plans to show Vrissy, Tavros, and Yiffie's rooms and interests like the old team did Harry Anderson's?
MILES: Yes! One of the things we've been the most stoked about as writers, visdevs, anything, is getting the chance to flesh these kids out more both in terms of who they have been up to now and who they're gonna become. A character's room is a hugely important part of their Homestuck Essence and we wanna stay true to that and continue to explore it.
ANDI: Absolutely...we are making sure of that!! There is so much potential in these kids and I can assure you our team is obsessed with exploring and discussing them.
Q: With the Roxy DKC Toblerone wish being fulfilled, is it a goal to confirm and canonize more unfulfilled wishes with this comic? Also are there any characters you've had a difficult time figuring out what exactly to do with in the new direction you're taking?
MILES: I know exactly what to do with every character, as I'm am so genius.
HAVEN: we've went through the cast and figured out everyone's deals pretty succinctly. If I do say so myself... we're kind of awesome...
FLORAL: i'm in a discord with all the homestuck characters and they will kill my family if we fuck this up
Q: How big do you think relationships will play into this? I think romantic relationships have always gotten a lot of love in the comic, but due to the nature of comic parental/authority and kid relationships were very barely present.
Something that makes HS:BC unique to me especially comparing it while re-reading the original is that all all adults existing alongside their children + the mid-20 something's version of of the adults to on the other side.
Should we expect more of the same distance when taken to relationships between adult and children as HS? Or can we look forward to like adults and children working together having developed relationships between two people not a child and vague authority figure?
Also does anyone on your staff like/love Alt-Calliope?
She is low key one of my favorite characters and I feel both her and Calliope were dreadfully under utilized. Alt-Calliope being malicious and yet “good" and having it out with Jade is low key one of my favorite post-comic moments.
MILES: We definitely are gonna be ruminating pretty heavily on the parent-child relationships, and as you pointed out the adults this time are Full Characters who are themselves going to be having their own arcs and adventures, but these groups (the kids vs the adults) are going to merge and subsequently distance themselves from each other pretty often and chaotically over the course of the narrative. A lot of these intergenerational relationships are things that the individual characters might need to work through themselves. Homestuck gives a lot of responsibility to people to work their own shit out, then converge and sort of... emotionally compare notes. Also, we fucking love Alt-Calliope, and I get the feeling that after we're done you're gonna love her even more.
FLORAL: What fun about Homestuck is that despite the game actively putting distance between children and their guardians, the guardians are always present in how the kids approach playing the game. Especially with the 4 betas. And personally that's one of the things I love about it. Also Alternate Calliope fucking rules.
HAVEN: i fucking love The Alternate Calliope
Q: will commander karkat be making a return?
MILES: In all his bodacious glory.
ANDI: Jaws will drop, baby.
FLORAL: He's here with us right now.
Q: With SaHCon coming up and the development of the vinyl, Im wondering if we could assume more merchandise to be rolled out as time goes on? (sincerely someone who would love a troll plushie)
CHUMI: Bro you don't even KNOW the half of it. I'm so excited to make more merch, and we have definitely talked about plushies and “bigger" merchandise! However, for now, settling into the groove of things (ie: updates, patreon, etc. etc.) is our top priority. But I'd say, look forward to it because you've got several people on the team who love making merch!
Q: What is a something that you know you cannot make canon, but really really really wanna make canon anyways
JAMES: I can do anything I want
Q: There are many many various styles of horns to draw! Which horns are yall's favorites, and also if you were a troll, whos horns would you have/want to have?
MILES: I'm not one of the artists but I love Kanaya's horns. They're so clean. The little barb on one of them is so classy.
HAVEN: i like drawing aradia's horns a lot
FLORAL: I like Karkat's horns, like they are embarrassing in comparison to everyone else. Also...Tavros horns...cow
CHUMI: My favorite ones are the swirly horns like Aradia or curved ones like the clowns!
KIM: I'm a big fan of jadeblood horns, they're nice and swoopy with a cool hook(s), hehe. I already have a trollsona that appears in several Homestuck spin-off properties (including Beyond Canon, already LOL). If you keep an eye out for a glasses-wearing indigo with a singular arrow pointed horn, that's probably me.
Q: Question for the artist or anyone involved in the process! I'm a really big fan of the new art style, I was wondering what the process was like when it came to changing it!
KIM: It's a mix of taking inspiration from our favorite panels of Homestuck, observing and taking note of what made OG Homestuck's art style in its entirety distinct to us, but also giving artists their own personal artistic spins on it! A really interesting observation about the “Homestuck art style" is that... it has always been visually all over the place, and that's what makes it fun! It's daring! It's experimental! Of course, there's lots of recurring stylistic ticks, but there's no singular art style– if that makes sense. I think all the artists on the team have a mutual understanding where we wanna go with it visually too, but the most important thing we all have to remember– you gotta have fun with it!!!
Q: How is HSBC/HS^2 partitioned? Like, will there still be chapters? If not, will that be replaced by "acts" or something else? How should the story's parts be referred to, for example should we call the first 15 Chapters Homestuck^2, and everything onwards Homestuck: Beyond Canon?
Any plans on adding an adventure map for HSBC?
MILES: We've been internally thinking of HSBC in Acts, and we're probably gonna crystallize that going forward. For reference, everything that's happened in HS^2/HSBC up til now would be considered to be part of HSBC Act 1. I believe we'll be delineating these things pretty clearly In-Comic, so over time/in retrospect it's gonna be pretty clear. You'll know when an Act has ended, and when a new one is beginning. As for what you should call the first chapters, I think you can sort of unofficially call those chapters “HS^2" if you want to refer specifically to that as a production era, but Homestuck: Beyond Canon is gonna be the name of the whole story, and HS^2 is the first part of That Story.
HAVEN: act 1 confirmed
KIM: If it helps, I've been personally referring to the first 15 Chapters of Beyond Canon as the pre-hiatus chapters.
JAMES: i heard someone call it the pre roach era which drives me insane
Q: Hey HS:BC, all here - What's the process like for creating an update? Is there a "writers room" where people spitball ideas, then get to work on the art afterwards, and then rinse and repeat
Keep up the good work!
HAVEN: our discord
MILES: Meetings and meetings and meetings and meetings. It's kind of as you said; we write/"storyboard" first (most often an update will be drafted out at first by one person, then the group congregates as editors), then the artists do their magic. It's some of the most fun I've had doing anything ever.
CHUMI: We have so many docs.
ANDI: Lots o' folders.
KIM: It's super collaborative! Even us as artists, we're not barred from coining in on the story either! Though, of course, the writing team spearheads it and have their own pipeline process LOL. When it comes to the art, it's a whole back and forth process with the artists making their boards and sketches for the update. I would constantly correspond with the artists, as I help overlook and make sure all the boards read clearly and unifies the overall visual intention for the comic.
Q: Hey James! A few questions if that's okay :)
1) What's the internal thoughts on the younger skew of the fanbase, especially when most of the content within the comic and Beyond Canon comic itself is geared towards older and adult readers? Will it continue being for older readers, or will it be a bit more sanitized/for all ages? I'd prefer to have it more adult still personally, but that's for you guys to decide ultimately .
2) Are there any updates on a gacha-type game you've discussed a few times, just as an idea? Or any other merch plans you can share?
3) Thank you for being nice to Roxy. Not a question ig.
CHUMI: I think our main priority is writing a story that's loyal to our vision. Since it so happens that HS:BC is currently exploring a lot of “adult" themes, HS:BC so far has been more adult-oriented. Of course, as the course of the story progresses, this is subject to change just as the themes of the story change! We're working on merch ideas, but that'll probably come at a later date, since we're more focused on settling in right now. Gacha game, we think about it all the time, at every meeting.
KIM: For your first question, Chumi put it best, I think we're simply focused on just trying to tell a good story. I don't think “sanitizing it" is our goal or the right way to put it either, but we just want to tell our story honestly, ykwim? And sometimes, those topics may touch upon more mature themes!
JAMES: The thing about young people is that they just keep making new ones. Audiences are always gonna skew “young" and thats cool man. I read things that were meant for older audiences as a kid, and theres very little we can do to stop kids from reading it. I think the best we can do is make it clear this intended for an older audience and cater it to that intended audience.
As far as a gacha game we half-joke about it. We all really want to do it because it would rule.
Also, no problem Roxy rules.
Q: 1. I know Hussie has largely washed his hands of HS (in a creative capacity, anyway), and we'll almost certainly never see a complete collection of HS books, but do you know if there's any possibility that we'll see a continuation of his author's notes in any form? I totally understand if he just wants to move on from talking about HS/making HS content himself, but I would love to see them on the Patreon or as a paid-for plug-in for the unofficial collection, or something else like that.
2. Is there any chance we ever get to see any of Homestuck's story bibles/development documents? Every time James mentions the classpect one, my Hunger grows. I know James always wanted to make a SBURBology-style guidebook, which would essentially be those sorts of documents turned into an actual product. Now that James directs the HICU, might SBURBology finally see the light of day?
3. On a related note, what's everyone on the team's dream HS merch? Besides SBRUBology, I would personally kill for Nendoroids of all my little blorbos.
4. What's everyone on the team's dream HS-related project? James and Kim have talked about doing a gacha game of some sort in the past, but what about everybody else?
5. Writers, of the Omega kids, who's your favourite and least favourite to write?
6. Have the Omega kids been assigned god tiers internally and, if so, will we ever find out what they are, inside or outside of the story?
7. When can I see Yiffany again I love her with all my heart and I miss her so bad.
MILES: Answering question 1 here. I don't want to get too into stuff just yet without working some stuff out on the back-end, but we'd very much like to see the author's notes continued and are actively looking into avenues to explore that. We'd love to have some good news for you guys on this front early next year, but no promises. As for question 5, I love writing Tavvy. I've been playing around with him in my head for a while and I have a lot of fun thinking about how to develop him.
CHUMI: Answering the 3rd question, my dream merch is plushies, cool attire that doesn't scream fandom but if you know you know, and just more cute, creative, and fun merch in general!
KIM:(3) FIGURES AND PLUSHIES!!! (4) Besides a gacha game LOL– my absolute DREAM project is to do a spin-off anthology series that explores the different kinds of possible complexities with each troll quadrant; each chapter featuring an entirely new pair of characters we've never met before. Human relationships are already so complex, and thinking about how quadrants can twist that is so fascinating to me.
FLORAL: Answering 5 and 6, I love writing all of them but Yiffy is so good. And you can't finalize characterization without assigning possible god tiers :)
Q: Is Davepeta really dead?
HAVEN: who said theyre dead
Q: not a question, but i want to shoutout floral and haven for the years of brilliant art ive seen from both of them! im sure other team members are talented too, im just not very familiar with their work
HAVEN: :D thank you!
FLORAL: I went waaah audibly, thank you!!
JAMES: yeah
Q: whats the hardest part of writing pre existing characters?
who would you give the aux to?
FLORAL: I love writing pre-written characters, I love crawling under another hypothetical person's skin and figuring out what makes them happy and what hurts them. What's hardest I'd say is distancing yourself from what popular fan readings say and finding your own voice. Except I also love that. I would keep the aux and force the characters to listen to MY playlists.
JAMES: It's actually way easier to me cause if you get it wrong you just say its character growth. Who's gonna stop me? You? Nice try. I wanna see what Karkat's listening to. Troll Mitski. Troll Lana Del Rey. Troll Sadgirl Music. Everyone else thinks I'm wrong. We're in a call and Miles said Eridan's listening to Troll Imagine Dragons. Argh gross.
HAVEN: karkat listens to Feels So Good by Troll Chuck Mangione. i would give the aux to sollux and roxy
MILES: I think the only thing that's hard about writing pre-existing characters is checking yourself to see “would they really do/think/say this?" It's actually been enormously helpful for me in terms of seeing how developed my understanding of these characters is and testing where it makes sense for us to take them. As for who to give the aux I was gonna answer Dave, originally, but I don't know that this is a safe thing to do. I'm changing my answer to Equius, because you know he's listening to a bunch of heavy shit. Cybergoth industrial. Hardstyle. Dubstep. Prog metal. Headbanger shit.
CHUMI: I'd give it to Floral. 🙂
Q: Is there any plan or news about the whole “Dragonology" type book for Sburb you mentioned? Also, love your work! The new team is doing great
MILES: We'd really like to do one someday, it'll be a huge project but it's VERY DESIRED by fans and staff alike. That said, if you saw how barebones the Official Document We For Real Got From Andrew was you'd fall to your knees. Or laugh.
HAVEN: putting it vaguely and unsatisfyingly most of the shit people have theorized every classpect about it is correct but the actual doc is like 1 sentence for each class and aspect, very bare bones.
JAMES: Sburbology is my dream. Right there next to HOMESTUCK GACHA GAME. It lives in my heart like a tumor.
Q: Will the new kids birthdays be revealed if said at all? In my opinion it would be pretty neat!
CHUMI: Yes, they'll all get canon birthdays!
FLORAL: We have to canonize a new scorpio.
Q: can dave beat goku
HAVEN: no
MILES: You can't pit two queens against each other like this. Also no.
JAMES: Nobody can beat Goku chucklehead
Q: christ o'maily there's a million of one frivolous questions so i guess if you feel like any of them are interesting then take your pick and answer, or answer none, i'm not picky.
1. What's the classpect you like to give your self?
2. are you sticking strictly with all narrative precedent you were given with the prior chapters or are you going to pick and choose some bits?
3. whats your prefered table stuck system?
4. are you nervous about takeing up this project? I know that the last team was treated like horse shit and I hope you guys arent treated even a fucking fraction of a percent as badly as they were but is the worry there?
5. how did this team form up? did you recruit in secret or did you all know each other prior ?
JAMES: CLASSPECTS. We decided these after reading the design notes, that you may see in some capacity. We really wanted to answer this one so sorry for ignoring the rest of your questions. To keep it fair to you I promise I at least read them.
MILES: Not sure on class, but I'm a Hope player, I think. Prospit gang.
FLORAL: Knight of Rage!! (Prospit) Rage gets a bad rap
HAVEN: page of mind (prospit)
JAMES: the team assigned me Seer of Doom (Derse)
KIM: Being a Void player is now my entire personality. At every turn I'm saying, “this is so Void player of me." I'm an Heir of Void (Equius.....) (Also, Prospit.)
ANDI (who had to leave early): Witch of Hope or Light ✌️ (Derse)
CHUMI: Witch of Hope or Light ✌️ (Derse)
KOHI: Mage of Hope (Prospit) cause I'm just a fucked up little optimist
Q: how are u :)
ANDI: Very good!!!! Enjoying answering these questions with the team. I am about to have a pre-christmas dinner. Hope you are doing well, thank you for asking!
HAVEN: having fun with the hs:bc team :)
MILES: I'm sooo hungry...
FLORAL: My friend started playing disco elysium so I'm doing better than before he was playing disco elysium.
CHUMI: Great! Winter break just started for me, so I'm ready to chill!
KIM: SWAGGY!!! Havin' a blast answering questions with my fwiends!!
JAMES: i was doing good but now you got me thinking about it and im getting all existential
Q: What are all of yours' favourite acts in Homestuck?
KIM: Ironically, as someone who was one of Those People who skipped to Act 5 when I first read it when I was in middle school (I know LMFAO)-- Acts 1-4 are actually my favorite acts.
HAVEN: i like both halves of act 5 the most, this is because i started reading when act 5 was going on
MILES: Agreed, Act 5 is the most crystallized in my mind when I think about the Homestuck Highs. It still had a lot of the fun gamey granularity of the early acts while also hitting really intense emotional and narrative crescendos.
JAMES: Love Act 1 and The Intermission if that counts. I can't believe Kim said he skipped to act 5. Thats so brave.
Q: What's Casey been up to?
CHUMI: Casey's up to some things! Somewhere!
JAMES: completely unhelpful answer
Q: Favorite pizza toppings?
MILES: Pep and sausage, baby.
JAMES: PEP AND SAUS AS WELL
HAVEN: i actually like a plain cheese pizza, that cheese has gotta be a little broiled though
MILES: With that tasteful burn on top... moans
CHUMI: I actually honestly 100% like pineapple on pizza... And all meat toppings.
FLORAL: Maybe pepperonis and mushrooms but cheese is my favorite too. Especially with way too much chilli flakes and white sauce. I'm so fucked up.
KIM: I don't think about pizza.
KOHI: I'm on that meat lover's grind
JAMES: did this motherfucker say they dont think about pizza what the fuck
Q: It is my understanding that the HICU is a completely different team than the team that made the "prologue" portion of HSBC and Pesterquest. Does the team have any affiliation with the Hiveswap team? Are there any other official Homestuck-related teams / projects? PS, I'm excited to see y'all's work!
KIM: Depending what you mean by “affiliation," but we do have a couple overlapping team members with the Hiveswap production (including me), but so far we have been working independently from the Hiveswap team. In regards to spin-offs/other Homestuck projects, I think we answered it pretty succinctly here!
JAMES: yeah.
Q: Ive never read homestuck, should I?
CHUMI: yea 🙂
Q: would it be possible to get a list of all the character's current official ages?
FLORAL: it's rude to ask a woman her age
MILES: Dave is a baby.
Q: This is a question directed to the whole team, but anyone of you, feel free to answer.
Do you all feel constrained at all by the writing style, formatting, or art style of OG Homestuck (or Homestuck2), or does this feel like its entirely a new frontier from which you wish to forge your own path?
HAVEN: i love it all its so fun
CHUMI: New frontier baby!!! Of course we want things to be at least a little familiar and connected to the OG Comic and HS2, but I think we're blazing our own paths here. It's really exciting, I hope you all will stick around to see what we do! If I could tell you guys, I would (NOT because it's more exciting to wait and see).
MILES: We get to balance both. As writers on a story that is at times viciously meta, I think it's important to be faithful to the style we inherited for the sake of like... already established Universal Integrity, but I actually really enjoy working within that style and adding my own flourishes to it.
KIM: Before the hiatus, I definitely feel like the art was a lot more standardized– which isn't a bad thing, per se! There's a convenience to having the art very streamlined, but of course that would mean there's a limitation to what we can do as artists. I've always admired the experimental aspect of Homestuck's art, and I hope we can re-introduce that within Beyond Canon again!
FLORAL: Personally I love the challenge of writing with pre-establish styles. The main draw of being in fandom is the interaction between the author's original vision and then working within those parameters while being true to myself. Respect to source material is paramount imo. And considering a core part of Homestuck's charm is reveling in authentic author voices and the constant push to break convention, the very format of Homestuck requires embracing new frontiers. So we stay winning no matter what.
JAMES: its great tbh
Q: James, will there at some point be more ultimate selves in Homestuck Beyond Canon? As I do kinda like the concept of the ultimate selves so I'm curious to know.
MILES: We wanna explore the concept more for sure.
FLORAL: If characters wanna get fucked up who are we to stop them.
JAMES: they are answering all of these before i get to them.
Q: James: Did you know that you have many fans from the Spanish-speaking community? and of course other languages, have you ever thought about adding more languages to read homestuck?
JAMES: damn fr where the latinas at
Anyway. That'd rule. I know there are a few fan translations, and I'd love to work with them.
Q: could the team share some of their backgrounds on previous works before joining the homestuck?
ANDI: lots of us has tons of stuff under our belt! I was just a little commission artist doin some freelance here and there. Then I got invited to do some sprites on Pesterquest, and then HS2 artwork. And now I'm here on HS:BC!
CHUMI: I've been doing freelance art for maybe a decade and convention tabling for awhile as well! I've also worked on multiple HS-related projects, canon (HS Cafe, Act 6 Tarot Deck on FFBF when it still existed), non-canon (zines), and fan-adventure related. This experience also expands to non-HS projects! I just like getting involved in projects, so I've done LOTS of random stuff here and there.
KIM: I've done storyboards and board revisions for HBO Max, and have worked on several indie productions (mostly for games) doing a variety of things like character designs, illustration, and animation! I was brought on-board working on Homestuck since I was in college, so there's also just a lot of Homestuck in my professional resume too LMFAO.
JAMES: When I was in my early 20's I used to work in a country club as a manual laborer, basically just picking up heavy things and moving them from one place to another. I was a music teacher for a while. I worked in insurance briefly but hated it. I've been doing music for webtoons and stuff under various names since I was in my teens. I worked as a sound mixer on Steven Universe: Future, and have done a lot of music for pitches and pilots etc. I wrote on Pesterquest and Hiveswap a little. I've done a lot of things behind the scenes as well but thats not as exciting.
FLORAL: I have my fancomic project Liminal Space and have been in an array of fanzines like the Phantasmic Youngsters. Outside of Homestuck, I've done Original Character Tournaments and 1 silly try at a webcomic in my early 20's. I've worked so much food service to pay for school.
HAVEN: i worked on this cool visual novel called ValiDate: Struggling Singles in your Area, it's available on steam go check it out!
KOHI: Aside from a few other small projects on MSPFA and beyond, I jumped onto the Vast Error team back in the mid-2010's and really got the chance to grow my web dev and Flash/HTML5 skills there.
Q: Follow up question! If that's ok ;-;
Is there any chance for John to get his mustache back? My opinion is that his design would look much better with it and it's so painful to read that he had it and shaved it off before we could see it! And on a related note, are there any plans for the kids to start resembling the guardians more?
MILES: Jake 'stache-mogged him. It's kind of devastating. I think trying to come back from that would be an arrogance even John is incapable of. It's like, you're both sort of sadsacks but one of you is a thick muscle hunk and the other one is his schlubbier look-a-like, you don't wanna add salt to the wound of that comparison by growing a weaker mustache. I feel you, though. Facial hair is a good look. Underutilized.
Q: are you guys having a fun time working on homestuck? i sure hope so!
HAVEN: yes
MILES: It's a fucking blast LOL.
CHUMI: It's a dream! Everyone's so good at what they do, it's amazing to see everything come together so perfectly.
FLORAL: I laugh every meeting.
KIM: Ever since the moment I was brought on to contribute to the Friendsims back in 2018, it has been and continues to be an absolute joy and a dream come true as a long time fan to contribute in any kind of official capacity towards the Homestuck property... I love this team!!! 🥺
Q: Who is genuinely the coolest character, on a personal basis?
CHUMI: Probably Yiffy tbh.
KIM: YIFFY❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗
MILES: I can tell you who's NOT cool. I saw Dirk at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn't want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you're doing now?" I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?" but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?" and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Orange Fantas in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first." At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bottles and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence," and then turned around and winked at me. I don't even think that's a word. After she scanned each bottle and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
JAMES: the girl reading this
ANDI: Kanaya
HAVEN: had the pleasure of bumping into karkat at the HS:BC office the other day, very down to earth and extremely funny
FLORAL: Echidna. She's literally Mother.
Q: We should probably refrain from asking story questions but I have to know: Is June Egbert still (assuming it was planned back then) happening?
JAMES: I'm going to be honest with you guys, June was always the plan. The “Toblerone Wish" just happened to line up with what was already going to happen. So Andrew “Confirmed" it. This is true of a lot of homestuck stuff, actually.
KIM: From what I know, June has definitely always been planned since the beginning even within the prior team, and her transition is technically a spoiler that Andrew revealed early on and, while we understand the hype (I'm hype too!), but we gotta let it cook within the story!
FLORAL: I love girls.
Q: Are y'all planning on keeping the update around the 16th of the month or are y'all planning on later changing which part of the month the upd8 happens?
MILES: Guess what. This month's update is right now.
END OF AMA.
CHUMI:
Hi, Chumi here! Welcome to the second HS:BC AMA!
This thread will go up a little early to gather some questions, but we will start answering around 4PM PST. Here is who's on deck:
James, Director
Kim, Art Director
Chumi, Artist and Assistant Manager
Andi, Artist
Haven, Artist and Writer
Floral, Writer and Artist
Miles, Writer
Kohi, Webmaster
Ask us anything! (About Homestuck)
Edit: As of 6:54 PST, the AMA is over! Thank you very much for participating! Sorry if we didn't get to your question, as there were over 400! Many of your questions will be answered in time, whether it be through more official announcements, communications, or surfacing plot points!
Q: can you pretty please consider doing a pop up event that isnt in california next year?
CHUMI: We really really want to (as one of the two East-coast team members)! It just happens that most of the team is located in California, so it’s easiest for us to coordinate events over there.
HAVEN: As the other east-coaster I also want one that is not in California soon.
ANDI: It’s been suggested internally quite often!!
Q: Is there any plans for Toby Fox and James Roach to potentially do a sick music collab together?
JAMES: I asked a long time ago and he said he would be open to it, though lately we talk about other stuff so i haven't thought about it in a minute.
Q: will the new session contain fun tech bullshit like the first few acts of Homestuck? me and probably a few others are eager to see more weird problem sleuth kinda shit
MILES: We have a couple lil’ ideas kicking around.
CHUMI: More alchemizing!! More alchemizing!!
JAMES: That's The Idea
HAVEN: I want more problem sleuth etc. bullshit... weird puzzle shit, weird new game mechanics, etc. etc.
Q: Is there any chance of the horrorterrors returning in some form or fashion?
HAVEN: There’s a chance.
MILES: That’s scary…
FLORAL: *begins shaking and spitting*
JAMES: Please take this seriously.
Q: how involved is andrew in the current direction of the story? and, are there any things outlined by him that we don't know yet?
HAVEN: The only things he’s really insisted upon so far were Yiffy and Hell Tier Vriska, and one other thing you have not seen too much of yet.
MILES: Otherwise, Andrew isn’t involved in the story essentially at all. I’m pretty amazed and grateful that he trusts us enough to give us complete free reign to write what we wanna write.
HAVEN: He drew fanart of our designs once.
JAMES: He usually just tells me he likes it.
Q: Okay I have another question: how long did take to make that huge [s] page flash? Was there any big challenges when making it?
KIM: Depends what you’d consider the start of it! We had it cookin’ in the pre-production stage for a good hot second, but the actual production was three and a half months long. It was definitely a valuable learning experience! I think our biggest hurdle is simply that Animate, formerly Flash, is unfortunately a neglected program by Adobe so we had to wrestle with the limitations of what the program would allow… 😔
Q: Recently James revealed that a Page is "One who preserves"- was that an intentional drop of Canon Classpect Information? Can we expect to see more of those in the future? And, if so, do y'all have access to a classpecting resource bible, or are you working off of headcanon like the rest of us?
JAMES: The exact wording is “one who fights to preserve”. I copy and pasted the class and aspect descriptions directly from the document andrew gave us. I will never fuck around about class and aspect that is my solemn vow. Well actually I might, but not that time.
Q: Is there any chance that we could see Paradox Space style comics revived (or maybe a continuation of The Inaugural Death of Mister Seven?)
HAVEN: Um, Maybe. Kind of. This is a funny question to receive right now.
FLORAL: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha 8 l
MILES: Hoh! Hoh hoh! HOH! This is how I laugh.
Q: i just want to see feferi (unfused)
KIM: I want to see her too…
CHUMI: We miss her!
Q: could we see a return of the Homestuck adventure map for HSBC
MILES: You could, would, and will. Right now there’s only one Act, but by definition whatever comes next will be a new thing, and so maybe it’s about time we whipped one up!
Q: Are you happy with the community's response to the comic's continuation? Personally I love it but I know it's a little controversial among some fans
MILES: Honestly, yes. We knew going in it was going to be controversial, but we all love Homestuck so much, and we know there are enough people out there who do too that this was worth doing. We’ve been really delighted that people like what we do, and we’ve also been determined to try and change the minds of at least some of those who don’t, but like... we take it as it comes. All we can do is our best; as long as we’re doing that, the fact that people give it the time of day at all is reward enough.
FLORAL: I second Miles here, we’ve so much growth in interest the last year and it’s amazing to see. For how controversial our return could have been, you guys have been so awesome and open to where we are taking the story.
Q: Is there a chance we will see more of the Sprites? I like the way they interacted in Vriska's Hell's even if only briefly.
Also I'm a fan of Erisolsprite and would like to see more of him. (also would love to see him interact with Karkat since he is the amalgamation of his two friends that he bonded with pre-session)
MILES: I just need you to know that a lot of us on the team said “awww” out loud when we saw your point about Karkat and Erisolsprite.
Q: For miles! While not asking for too many details, Did you find any of the "Mysterious Deltatrius species'" characters trickier to write than others, and if so for what reason. Generalities like "They have a weird quirk!" or "They have this unusual tone or verbosity to them" certainly work.
MILES: Finding voices for any character gets easier the more you write them, including some of the OG HS character’s that we’ve all known for 15+ years. Without GIVING too many details (even though I really want to, LOL) I’ll say that anything that ever catches us all up as writers where dialogue/character writing is concerned ends up leading to really good stuff that I hope you look forward to.
JAMES: A lot of the character comes out while you’re writing.
Q: Any hints about who the next Makeship plushie is or how soon we can expect to be able to pre-order them?
JAMES: Much to my dismay it's not Aradia yet. :/ Anyway it’s John.
Q: i know this isnt about HS:BC in particular, but are there any details youre allowed to tell us about the Official version of the fanmade Homestuck Collection? hoping for an ETA, but understandable if there is none. on that note however, is the Official Collection being made totally from the ground up, or is it built off Bambosh and GiovanH's Unofficial Collection? And are you aware that people are experiencing issues with the UHC downloads presently linked on the UHC website? we've had to direct new readersan archived version of the UHC website as a result
JAMES: i suppose the main detail is that it being worked on, but i think the priority right now is fixing the main sites glaring issues.
Q: Is Hiveswap: Act 3 still in the works?
MILES: Yes! Just to be clear, we are a different team. But yes. It is still, AS WE SPEAK, in the works.
Q: can any of the omega kids cook or bake? was baking an integral part of tavvy’s upbringing?
MILES: He did what he had to do.
KIM: Harry also knows how to bake. :-)
Q: How does Dave Strider square his love of Obama with his hatred of Neoliberalism?
MILES: Dave has had a lot of practice compartmentalizing.
Q: can u guys flash commander karkat's ass at the screen at some point or take his shirt off or can you guys let him and terezi have 1 last interaction
MILES: Which one do you want most?
CHUMI: Choose wisely, person who likes karezi.
Q: I asked about a Fortnite collab last year, so this time I'd figured I'd ask: are there any DREAM collabs you have? Or just something you wanna do with homestuck that's just really out there?
HAVEN: Vampire Survivors... Balatro...
MILES: Metal Gear Solid 6. And, of course, the Homestuck Gacha. That we still really want to make. I’m not letting this go.
HAVEN: I change my answer to Homestuck Gacha.
CHUMI: A clothing collab of some sort <3
ANDI: Identity V would be pretty good. I mean I feel like we’d love any kind of collaboration featuring a game. I’d take Among Us even.
FLORAL: I would absolutely love to do a Maid Cafe event…. that would make me so happy.
KIM: I said this last year, but IN AN IDEAL WORLD I would love to see a Homestuck X Cookie Run Kingdom collab. I want them to be SMALL.
JAMES: The girl reading this.
Q: The new log mentioned you guys did a table read of the script. Do any of you have a favorite character to read?
MILES: I really like reading Karkat. There hasn’t been any Dave in a real long time but I like reading him too. Honestly, any character prone to kind of strange rants is super fun.
KIM: I was reading Vriska’s lines, and she’s pretty fun to voice outloud because she’s such a lively character LOL.
CHUMI: I liked reading Kanaya’s rage-filled snark in the previous update, but I love doing table readings in general so anyone will do!
Q: Hi guys, thanks so much for some amazing work over the last ?year. I can't believe how well ye've balanced homage to and continuity with OG and previous Homestucks with freshness, surprise and new personality in both art and writing.
My q: I became a dad since reading the previous incarnations of Homestuck, and it's been a total change in my worldview. I think about this in particular in connection with BC's focus shifting away from the OG characters towards the omega kids. I wonder if this story decision came from similar transformative experiences you guys have had, or if there have been any other transformative experiences you guys have or want to incorporate into the story. Thanks!
CHUMI: Congratulations on becoming a dad!! What a life-changing event!! 😀 I would say that growing up in general has influenced how I interpret Candy specifically. I started reading Homestuck when I was like 12 and I’m 27 now, just as the kids started as 13 year olds and are now in mid-life in Candy. I am a different person now! Some changes were for the better, some for the worse. My favorite characters are different, older people now, and it’s been so interesting to explore why and how it happened. I think HS:BC reflects parts of my own experience with growing up, becoming different, and reconciling with that. Additionally, as someone who is a “fandom figure(?)”, thinking about my self-perception versus how my audience perceives me. It’s been slightly touched on with Jade, how it feels to be an eternal celebrity and how their image of her differs from her actual self. I have a lot of thoughts, but I’ll leave it at this for now HEHE.
MILES: Serious congrats on your new journey of fatherhood! I think, as Chumi mentioned above, that our own journeys through childhood and also through the growing up of Homestuck itself as a story and a fandom are absolutely huge influences on what we’ve done and where we hope to go with the rest of the story.
FLORAL: That’s awesome, congratulations!! I think one of the biggest experiences I have had that resonates with HSBC is what it takes to change and grow and not only be in the backseat of your own life. That some of the worse traps we get stuck in are ones we build ourselves.
JAMES: Yes. The overall story of beyond canon is about moving on.
Q: Is Karkat on the same level as Jake vis-a-vis public sexualization? (this is kind of a joke question kind of not idk)
What kind of parasocial bullshit do these ppl have to deal with daily?
Will Vrissy and Yiffy have teen subculture petty bullshitting ON TOP of the strained family situation stuff. please
MILES: Definitely. Jake is definitely a “safer” public figure to be obsessed with but Karkat is the kind of sexy countercultural hero that can’t help but get a lot of play in Earth C society, notorious rogue that he is... we put a little tidbit in the last update about Jane having to spend a lot of time smearing him in the media because otherwise his rugged proletariat charisma would probably just run rampant through their society. I’m sure all the gods deal with this on some level, but Karkat sort of occupies a special echelon (a spechelon) where this is concerned by virtue of his controversial role in their current history. Sorry for spending a bunch of time writing about how Karkat’s hot bod challenges society. Anyway, yes, Vrissy and Yiffy AND the rest of the Omega kids have a LOT of teen drama ready and waiting for all our viewing pleasure.
FLORAL: I have had a lot of thoughts on the parasocial interactions all the OG cast have on Earth C, the horror of it all running deep and bizarre. Think of what people do to celebrities in our lives, and they’re not even walking, talking Jesus figures.
Q: has the canonicity of fantrolls gone up as the story's canonicity has trended towards dubious
JAMES: Sometimes you say a word so much it just becomes a series of sounds.
CHUMI: Yes because we put our fantrolls into the comic.
Q: chumi, how does it feel to be a jade harley fan on there?
CHUMI: We’re always winning with Floral on our side…
Q: is there any word about the official homestuck collection? where/how will it be distributed? will it be free? is it an exact port of the unofficial one? any ballpark release date?
do you hope to see homestuck regain some of the cultural relevancy it had back in its hayday? if yes, what are the plans for that? if no, why?
JAMES: Sort of talked about your first question elsewhere, but to your second question:
I don't know if thats possible. I had a conversation with Andrew about this recently and how Homestuck came into itself in an era that doesn't exist anymore. The way we interact with things online has fundamentally changed and evolved and in order to remain "relevant" homestuck, and the very nature of it being "a webcomic" would have to evolve as well. It is very easy to say things like this because I don't know what that would even mean. I'm not gonna be out there making homestuck dance tiktoks or doing like corporate social media viral engagement bait shit. that sucks and nobody wants that. but homestuck has always kind of been an experience that extends beyond the pages of a webcomic
anyway, i am interested in seeing how we evolve both as a property and a community.
Q: Have y’all ever eaten Kiwis before
JAMES: I eat them like apples and everyone hates it.
MILES: I don’t even know what to say to that, man.
CHUMI: I like ‘em golden.
Q: I'm not sure if this would be showing your hand, but how do you think you'd rank the candy adults by how off their rocker they are? Except maybe Rose, who I think we can all agree is extremely Not Okay.
CHUMI: I’ll group ‘em up, in no particular order! Jane Jade Rose John (now we know their ass is crazy!) / Jake Roxy (not doing too great) / Karkat Kanaya Meenah (well-adjusted to a degree) / Sollux (doesn’t gaf)
MILES: From most to least crazy? Hmmm... Jane probably takes the cake here for outlandish, but I think Rose and John are dealing with more like... mind-alteringly intense existential problems, and are less Stable. Jade is being pushed pretty far emotionally by the hole she’s dug herself into, but I think she’s fundamentally got her shit together, she’s just really upset. Kanaya is definitely angrier than Jade, but I think still able to hold herself together more. Roxy, by contrast, is less angry than Kanaya, but more... out of touch? I wouldn’t say she’s crazy but she’s also deep in the cope-realm and still needs to absorb the reality of what’s happening. Jake is seeing a lot more clearly recently than he has in a while, but I think the excitement of making all these new stressful steps probably has him feeling shaky. Callie is just vibing but again, priorities are a little mixed up. Karkat is probably who I’d consider to be near the most adjusted right now. Angry and tired and stressed out, but he’s got a good head on his shoulders, he’s thinking solution. Meenah is chilling, honestly. Shit’s all worked out great for her. This got way too long.
FLORAL: I think they all take turns being the craziest son of a bitch in the room, in very different ways, but we haven’t seen Candy Jade post losing Yiffy yet…
Q: What qualified Tavros Crocker to become a Notary Public? What other qualifications does he have?
MILES: Tavvy is a man-boy (boy-man?) of many talents, by upbringing and necessity. As the once-heir to a planet-spanning business and political empire, the guy’s gotta understand paperwork! We’re gonna try and show many of his other special and perhaps unpredictable skills directly, so I can’t say too much on that lest we ruin any fun surprises. But I’ll tell you this. He is qualified to be my favorite Omega kid.
Q: Why was it decided to move from Requiem to a very similar but smaller venue doing a shorter event?
JAMES: The original event was back during the VIZ days, and we didn’t have much creative control over it. VIZ got paid a small percentage of overall sales that was not extended to WP, though some of us participated in a freelance capacity. We wanted to do something with a bit more creative control, but the second Requiem cafe event was already in motion before we could plan otherwise. We were more interested in doing something on a much smaller scale that would be easier to keep track of ourselves, and the Requiem events ballooned to be weeks long with very little oversight from anyone tied to Homestuck. We declined to do the event again back in October, and decided to move forward with another opportunity presented to us in H&B. They do much more focused pop-up events like this all the time, and it was more in line with what we wanted to do originally.
FOLLOWUP: Thanks for providing some insight on this. That said, the choice seems baffling and frustrating from the point of view of an attendee.
Requiem's 4/13 has been held twice. Both times it sold out, both times it was beloved by those who went. By a margin of six months or so, it's been an important thing for many homestucks for longer than Beyond Canon has. It's been the closest thing we might ever have to a "real" Homestuck convention, and it's not even that big — it hosts, what, just over a hundred people?
Wanting an event where you're more involved makes a degree of sense — but going out of your way to replace the only real physical Homestuck party with an even smaller one (and with an untested concept besides) seems incredibly strange. Does H&B even have the space and facilities for people to gather and talk like Requiem does? Will they be able to host performances? Especially when demand is as high as it is — if H&B is even smaller, surely both could sell out! That's what you'd want, when growing a fandom.
Perhaps there are more detailed reasons you haven't shared, but currently the situation just seems weird, almost like the more popular event has been sabotaged to make way for a more closely held one. Like Requiem, I wish H&B all the best for their party — but I'll miss the old one, and I sincerely hope you'll give them the chance to host again in the future.
JAMES: You know, that's fair. I recognize the Requiem event was special for a lot of people and to their credit they hosted a fun event in a space that could handle something like that.
I think "replace" is the wrong sentiment, but I can see how it would be easy to think that based on what I had said. That's my bad, I'm sorry. To clear it up a bit this was not a decision made to spite anyone, and the choice to not do it again was made before moving forward with the H&B event. That was something that came about more recently. The last thing I want to happen here is any sort of mudslinging or w/e. I don't think that benefits anyone.
You're right that H&B doesn't have the space for that size of event and I must stress this again, that is not the kind of event we want or have the capacity to host in a way that we can comfortably oversee. While I trust requiem to handle their own business, I do not personally have the manpower to be present or even have someone present to oversee a week/month long event in a way that makes me comfortable with putting our name on it and calling it "official". I personally can't even go to these events because I am a disabled person with limited mobility and overall poor health.
Here is an example of what I mean. During last years event a sort of street fair happened at the same time. I did not know about this, and it sort of seemed like it was a surprise to the Requiem folks as well. From what I later understood it was something planned by the city and unavoidable. A large mobile tattoo parlor was parked in front of the cafe, and to their credit Requiem made the best of a poorly planned situation and tried to incorporate it into the event.. but if I'm being honest I really wish they hadn't or had at least asked me or anyone about it. I was not told about this until I saw posts on social media that our "officially endorsed" event would be offering tattoos. There is no universe where I or anyone here would endorse that. While they did what they thought was the best they could, I was not even consulted about it, nor was it cleared with anyone at WP/HICU etc. This is not the kind of thing I want to find out because I'm in bed scrolling through my instagram algorithm. As you can imagine, this is the exact kind of thing we can't afford to be liable for, even if miraculously nothing went horribly wrong. They did what they had to do, but my point is that it never should have come to that because we are not equipped to deal with something like that going awry.
Something like this upcoming pop-up, might require more initial footwork and setup on our part to get rolling, sure. However, it is much easier to oversee because there is no (for lack of a better term) babysitting involved. I'm not comfortable outsourcing the responsibility of chaperoning a bunch of kids in cosplay for several hours a day for multiple days. In fact, I'm not even comfortable in-sourcing that. I am not a childcare professional. If anything went wrong who do you think would have been held accountable? There were a handful of things that happened that I only heard about after the fact, and its honestly a miracle nobody got too hurt. It's nothing juicy or gossip-worthy, I just don't think it needs to be drawn out and I don't have the energy to get into some huge thing about it all. Sorry.
The H&B event isn't a party, it isn't a concert or a panel with special guests- it is a cute bakery pop-up with themed macarons and some fun limited run collab merch. Yes, the scale is much much smaller, but it is also just a completely different kind of event. They do these sorts of pop-ups often and have a great track record. I have had friends who have gone to many of these for various fandoms and properties over the years. This is much more in-line with the kind of thing we wanted to do initially and is being handled and run by the members of the current team.
I hope that addresses your concerns in a way that is satisfying to you and other concerned parties. I know it must seem a bit vague to not get every juicy detail but I really don't want to get anymore into it or drag this out into some sort of back and forth or air out anyone's dirty laundry or whatever else this could devolve into. I am sort of pulling the "I am an exhausted old man" card.
For what it's worth I am sorry we are not doing the event again, and it sounds like you had a fun time when you went. I will shoulder the responsibility for this, and the people these decisions have upset. So.. I'd humbly ask that you guys don't blame the team or hate on the event they are working hard to make happen, yeah?
Q: Not a question, just wanted to let you know I very much enjoy your run of things so far. Well done everyone
KIM: Thank YOU for accompanying us on this journey and enjoying it with us!
CHUMI: THANK YOU! We’re grateful for your support!! ♥️
MILES: We very much enjoy making it, so we’re so so so happy you like it :)
Q: Are you guys still considering Homestuck x Fortnite?
CHUMI: We are always considering Homestuck x Fortnite.
Q: Any chances we could see any more content in the Bonus Tab?
I would especially would like to see the continuation on "A Treatise on Representational Democracy" or something like it. I'm a sucker for that kind of worldbuilding.
MILES: This would be really fun to do. I hope so, is I guess the answer here? Perhaps even I *think* so.
Q: what has been your favorite moment working on HSBC? any funny behind the scenes stories you can share?
MILES: It’s tough pulling specific moments to mind but the writers rooms (and, frankly, any of the team gatherings) are really funny. Everyone who works on this comic is really funny. Of specific and random note is that I was SO, so entertained during the entire process of making the original commercial for the Karkat plush.
CHUMI: Probably seeing the Flash come together, as well as coordinating events + merch plans!
KIM: The collaborative stuff like the meetings and the art jams are my favorite part of working on Beyond Canon! One, because everything these guys output BLOWS my mind away every time and it’s awesome to see our work come together live. And, two… I just like being on call with the team because I like hanging out with my fwents. 🥺
One funny story I have is when we’re in a team meeting and I was trying to propose when our next internal break would be, my brain was mixing up “break” and “rest” and just said outloud, “When do we want a breast” and immediately left the call in shame.
ANDI: Filming the Karkat plush video at walmart. I went to kick him into the aisle and I tripped and bent my ankle. It was awesome.
FLORAL: I won’t lie, drawing on call for this last update was awesome and so invigorating. The writer rooms are also so so fun and full of zoomies. I’m just so happy to be involved with the project as a whole and every person whose involved. One funny story is I had to work when we were going to drop the flash, and I tried getting on call during my lunch break. I had to hurry back to work and ended up leaving the call screaming “ I DROPPED MY BURRITO AAAAHHHH.”
JAMES: My favorite moments are your smiling faces, and the wonder in your eyes..
Q: What kind of tools do you use to create the animations and panels?
CHUMI: I draw in Clip Studio Paint and animate in Photoshop!
KIM: I primarily use CSP for both standard panels and animating, a little bit of back-up with Photoshop. For more complex animations, sometimes I use After Effects.
ANDI: I use fire alpaca to animate (for example: The first terezi update was animated primarily in fire alpaca). I use csp for everything else! I SHOULD be using csp to animate, which is my next goal. Adobe animate, as well.
HAVEN: I draw in Sai2 and animate in Photoshop CS6, sometimes I sketch in drawpile.
FLORAL: I made the gif in the last update using Animate, and besides that use CLIP PAINT and Photoshop. Clip Paint is awesome for those crisp, tidy lines.
Q: Is there ever going to be a Beyond Canon 2? (As in the album, not the comic.)
JAMES: Good opportunity to say I want to start assembling a new music team. There is a lot of confusion and mysticism about the old music stuff and who has the rights to what etc, so I’d want to do new contracts that favor the musicians a little more. I have been trying to get this set up (and get the old albums back up) but it is taking a sort of insane amount of time, due to a plethora of other little things that have priority. It feels like it could be so simple but for reasons beyond my ability to fathom it is not. For whatever reason the music stuff always seems to be the slowest moving cog in all this. Probably because there are just so many damn people to contact. It's a legal miasma.
I actually won’t really be contributing much in that regard. I’d be more than happy to have anyone from the old team come back, but some new blood would be great too. I’d love suggestions. I’ll set up a way to do that once I’m able.
Q: Is there a non-zero chance we see anything playing with the concept of Trickster Mode, again?
HAVEN: Probably not because they don’t want me to confirm that trickster makes trolls white too.
Q: Who were the Crocker Goons clones of?
JAMES: We laughed about this in call, because all we could come up with was "eachother"
Q: Do you think we'll get a chance to see other kids' rooms like Harry?
MILES: You think it’s ok to just look into a kids’ room? What the... I just... don’t know if I’m comfortable with that.
CHUMI: We will definitely be looking at other kids’ rooms!
Q: I have a few questions, if that’s ok!
1: Can you tell us anything about the intermission I heard is going to happen before act 2?
And 2: can you tell us the kids Classpects? I don’t remember this being asked in an earlier ama (sorry about this if it has!) but this has been BURNING a hole in me for a while now and I REALLY wanna know!!!!
HAVEN: 1.) It’s weird. 2.) Nah...
MILES: It’s different... as for the classpects, we COULD tell you. But we’re not gonna do that on reddit!
JAMES: I keep trying to talk about classpect lore and they tell me not to. Nobody lets me do anything.
Q: There have been some references to pretty obscure media so far. Has the fandom missed any?
JAMES: Nobody called us out for using fortnite gun models. There are a handful of references here and there, at least someone usually picks up on it. I think its funnier when we think the reference is really clear but it drives someone insane trying to figure out if it's some sort of ARG.
MILES: To be honest, the fans are pretty good at catching them!
Q: fantastic work on these recent updates and congratulations on reaching the end of act 1! since it seems like act 2 will be focused largely on deltritus and thus be the first part of this story you all really get to define for yourselves, it strikes me that this curtain call marks a sort of End to the original hs2/epilogues project. how does it feel to finally close that chapter of homestuck's history? what lessons have you learned trying to pick up the pieces of someone(s) else's half-finished narrative, and what are you looking forward to now that you're (presumably) more free to take things in your own direction?
also: june real :)
FLORAL: As someone who loves Candy and loved writing it, it’s kind of insane to get to this point now. We decided to end things on this big argument 2 years ago and to see it finally happen and people’s reactions to it is… radical. We all had so many feelings about how to close the book on this, especially in a way that was interesting and loving and not a shunting undesirables off screen. It was a big hope with this upd8 that despite these version of the characters being lowkey almost traumatic for the readers during 2019, we’d leave Act 1 with people hoping to know what happens to them next. I am really hoping this catharsis did just that!
KIM: Considering a lot of these beats have been planned about two years ago, god damn, is it cathartic to finally reach this goal post! And to think this is only scratching the *surface* of what we’ve already had planned, I’m ecstatic we’re finally dipping into the next chapter of our story! I think what we’re all looking forward to is elaborating on what hasn't been explored in the original story before, BUT also *new* things as well–which you’ll come to see eventually! AHHH there’s so much I can’t wait to share with you guys.
JAMES: Feels great. Wait what the hell the rest of you typed so much when I wasn’t looking.
MILES: FEELS GOOD! We’re all gonna say more or less the same stuff here, so I’ll stay succinct and leave it at the fact that, perhaps controversially, I love the foundation we were given to write on, love the way we “closed it up”, and LOVE where we’re going to go. It feels presumptuous to say too much about making it “ours” because Homestuck belongs to everyone, but I won’t pretend I’m not proud of the stuff the new team generated from scratch. I’m having so much fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAVEN: It feels so awesome, I read through the EOA1 update like 30 or so times and I couldn’t stop thinking about where we were when we started.
ANDI: From start to now, it’s been such a rewarding experience. I’ve learned so much from this team and I feel like our strengths are only becoming more visible as we continue with this project as we go into ACT 2. <3
CHUMI: It feels great!!! I also am a Candy fan, so this was a nice, fireworks sendoff for a crazy cast of characters. I have a lot of thoughts on them, but I am also excited to move onto new pastures.
Q: What's Hussie up to nowadays?
JAMES: Andrew has been really busy with life stuff, but we talk pretty regularly. If I'm being honest its usually not about work.
Q: Is the fire halo on Hell tier Vriska actual fire?
HAVEN: It’s real and also metaphorical. You could light a cigarette with it if you wanted. Don’t touch it though it’s hot.
Q: To those involved in Writing (Miles, Floral, & James): Do you plan for the to Candy adults still have a degree of importance/screentime going forward?
To those involved in the art (Floral, Kim, Andi, Haven, & Chumi): You've made a handful of new designs so far, ranging from small changes to giving Karkat stubble to full redesigns like Terezi's new suit and Jade's post-possession casual fit. What's your favorite new design you've made so far?
CHUMI: I’m biased towards Meat Jade’s new outfit because I designed it and I dress like that. If I had to choose another design, it’d probably be Commander Karkat cuz he’s a hottie.
MILES: If we left the Candy adults behind now and never went back to them, what would they have learned? And on top of all that, to never see DILF Karkat ever again? Not while I draw breath. I mean, I guess maybe except for when the story ends forever. Although I supposed we could just make Homestuck a sort of infinite parade of Karkat pin-ups.
ANDI: I really liked Vriska’s Hell tier the most.
KIM: So hard to pick, because a lot of them are absolute bangers… Maybe Hell Tier Vriska, she’s an especially unique and fun to draw design LOL
HAVEN: That you’ve seen so far? Probably a tie between Hell Tier Vriska and also All New Adult Vriska. So happy we got to keep the ponytail Kim gave her back during the Vrisual Novel.
FLORAL: My beautiful sweet precious Candy adult angels… even if they aren’t on screen we are about to get to know their kids much better, no matter what their influence is ever present…
Also I haven’t got to design much, BUT some things will be showing up VERY soon ;).
Q: Which character surprised you the most when writing them?
MILES: Writing Dirk has been really fun. I liked him well enough in OG Homestuck, but in the Epilogues and beyond his character really clicked for me, and getting into his head has been great. He’s become one of my favorites, and I would never have imagined that if you’d asked it of me in 2016.
JAMES: Tavros.
FLORAL: Tavros 1000% I was actually pretty intimidated going into it. But then it awesome and so fun. Also Momfang.
Q: Any updates on what’s going on with homestuck.com?
KOHI: Another collaborator and I have been taking passes at the website back and forth, finding more and more new and unusual issues as we go along, but none of them the root issue. It feels like when you flip over a rock in the mud of a riverbank and expect to find some cool bugs — we're finding bugs, all right, but they're all the fucked-up abominations that aren't so much cool as much as they are invasive. Uh. Anyway. Progress is happening on this! It'll be fairly obvious when it's back up and running, and we'll make sure to issue communication when it is.
Q: Although it may not seem relevant.
1: Could you tell us the eye color of the kids?
2: And if they're derse/prospit dreamers?
HAVEN: It is relevant, but we cannot tell you. :)
JAMES: For what it's worth I really want to tell you. I hope that comforts you.
Q: James: What (currently planned) arc are you most excited for, talking in riddles is cool if you don't want to spoil. Do you ever get too stressed out from how difficult it is for people to trust you and the new team? Do you think it affects your work ethic? Or do you think it's reasonable to be scared and you actually love it because it means more engagement with the material and it's a challenge to confront with gusto?
Kim: Helltier designs. Should we be stoked? Y/N? Clearly they're based on Leviathan Cross concepts rather than Common Denominator concepts.
Chumi: Any new merch y'all've been wanting to fuck with?
Chumi, Andi, Haven, Floral: Future character designs you guys are most looking forward to drawing in all sorts of dynamic positions. Any cool environmental settings you got planned?
Haven, Floral, Miles: The two-coin choice system was inspired. It fits John's statement of "maybe there's such a thing as too much freedom," yet by having a narrative choice in the matter that eventually ends up remeeting back into a temporal knot down the line, it seems to allow for characters to have even more freedom in individual choices. Are you guys going to be playing with this more to counter Ult!Dirk and Alt!Cal's methodologies?
Kohi: You got any cool concepts and ideas for further bringing the story to explosive life like the recent panel with Vriska and the four kids where they're hanging partially out of frame?
Last but not least, for all of you: Favorite kid of the current four and why? Any headcanons about their life and interests outside of what's been revealed so far, including other friends?
JAMES: Deltritans. Full stop. Deltritus session. Anything to do with Aradia. I’m sad she doesn’t have anything to do right now. I bring her up at every writers meeting. “How can we work Aradia into this?” then they all shoot me with guns. Wow this is a really involved question! I think working with people you trust is paramount to a project like this.
KIM: I LOVE the direction we went with Vriska’s Hell Tier design. She went through a lot of iterations (which we’ll be getting into in one of our artist commentaries coming up soon), but what we ended up all feeling very strongly about is that she appeared more *abstract* and conceptual. She’s surpassed being defined within the comic, and now as you all have witnessed from the recent update she’s even breaking from the confines of it! AHHH SHE’S ESCAPING
ANDI: The vriska hell tier design was one of our first art jams ever and it was incredibly fun to do. I’m looking forward to more sessions like that with this team.
CHUMI: I don’t wanna make any promises with merchandise, but I have done a lot of reaching out in a bunch of different directions (some old, some new)! My personal preference for merch includes wearable items that are ~subtly~ fandom-presenting and collectibles like figures and plushies, but will it come true…? Crossing my fingers! As for future character designs and drawings, I am SO looking forward to showing off the Deltritans. I think they will be a big hit!!My favorite Omega changes every day, so I'll say Tavvy for now!
HAVEN: 1.) Yes... I love designing new outfits so much...
2.) Yes
3.) My favorite Omega is Harry but I like them all a lot.
MILES: Yes! And my favorite Omega kid is Tavvy; I’m soooo excited for us to serve up a little more of who he is, and where he’s going to go. He’s my brave little soldier… (Also, I know I wasn’t technically asked this, but I’m also going to chime in and say I’m ALSO super, SUPER stoked for Deltritus.)
KIM: My first contribution to Beyond Canon was being commissioned to draw Yiffy’s design, so I have a little sentimental bias towards her LOL. But of the four Omega kids, I think Harry is also pretty up there as one of my favorites. As you can imagine we’ll be spending some more time with these kids in this comic, we’ll be learning more glimpses about their lives outside of their parents too!
FLORAL: We literally just have a few art jams to figure out new outfits that I am so so excited for but, there’s so many we have been working on. I’m also a big environmental design person and what we’ve been cooking up for Deltritus… Delicious. Also i like the multiple choice question, it would be pretty cool if we did!! Lastly…. this is so hard to choose… but I think it may be Yiffy that is my fave Omega. I’ve thought A Lot about her interactions in the boarding school, her gang … how it built her into the punk she is today. Wrow.
Q: Was Vriska always intended to 'grow up' and take on a 'guardian'-like role for the Omega Kids? If it's something that the new creative team decided to explore, what lead you to that direction?
(Sidenote: Floral, i love Liminal Space, it's my favorite piece of Homestuck fan media. I'm glad to know someone who understands the characters so well is on the team!)
FLORAL: When I joined the team it absolutely was, and we’ve continue to evolve it since. I think it was kind of imperative that if we have Vriska go through another arch, something about her and her role has to change, this is an entirely different challenge she’s never had before and that’s the opportunities you chase after when writing.
Also WAAAAH thank you!! That means a lot, I really appreciate you reading, I learned so much while making that comic I’m so grateful to the team and HSBC for letting me use the years I molded my homestuck skills to good use.
Q: Will Sollux get compensated for his cold pizza?
HAVEN: One can only hope...
MILES: I do have to say, though, that canonically Karkat is the one who sent the food to Sollux’s place. So if anything, the Rebellion deserves the reimbursement. They need the money.
Q: What Pokemon would the Beta kids have
CHUMI: I’ve seen this around, but Jade with 10% Forme Zygarde. It’s a fucking green dog!!! John would get Raboot, Dave gets Corviknight, and Rose gets Frillish.
HAVEN: John gets a Mime Jr. and it’s a Mr. Rime now, oh and he's got a Slowking. He’d be kind of a genwunner even though he likes gen 1-4 mons anyway. Rose has a Malamar and a Dhelmise. Everybody wants to give Jade some dog so I’m making sure I don’t fit in and saying she should have a Registeel. Dave has a Murkrow and he hates it.
MILES: I think John would have a Haunter! His very own ghostlyTrickster...
Q: Has anyone on the team watched severance and if so what four homestuck^2 characters would be the most interesting in MDR?
JAMES: https://bsky.app/profile/hmnh.bsky.social/post/3lgzuanxe3c2l
Q: I'm going to be cool and original and ask: what do you have planned for act 3? (not to be confused with the upcoming act 2)
HAVEN: That’s a good question.
MILES: I like that question.
HAVEN: It’ll be 3 times as intense as the act it’s following.
FLORAL: You need to prepare yourself for it’s power.
Q: Is the comic going to go back to updating multiple times in a month or should we only expect one a month?
JAMES: We have a few intermission updates that will drop individually, but for ACT 2 we are going to play around with some…more classic update schedules. ;)
Q: for anyone - do you have a favorite piece of fan speculation or reaction to an update that you've seen over HSBC's run so far? i still remember the first upd8 i caught pretty fondly (vrisual novel's start haha) so im curious about if any of you have moments that felt special to you.
MILES: Can’t say WHAT they are, but honestly some of my favorite bits of speculation are when we see a fan that gets something almost 100% right. It just makes me laugh.
HAVEN: Every time we see a post on something where someone just gets it instantly we share it with each other and freak out.
FLORAL: This wasn’t directly in response to an update, but I’m glad people like my Evil Jane thumbnail from Update 12. You know the one.
Q: how many acts do you think beyond canon will have? a good estimate. and will you be open to having guest musicians feature in beyond canon?
MILES: We have a pretty good idea of the main plot beats we wanna hit all the way through til the end, but we’re still not quite sure how many acts we wanna divide it up into. A lot of that becomes clearer to us the closer we get. Maybe we’ll have a more accurate answer to this soon! That said, we anticipate HS:BC still has a lot more time left to go :)
Q: Also! Who chose the names for Vriska’s echeladder? As someone with a degree in early childhood I thought the callbacks to psychology was great, especially Piaget haha
FLORAL: We made a big document that everyone contributed to!! Mostly we wanted to stick with what Vriska’s specific journey called. Boundary Respecter was my fave.
CHUMI: I’m currently in grad school for something psych related, so I just threw in as many terms as possible.
MILES: The whole team got together and cranked out as many fire and psychology related puns as we could think of before we started wanting to jump off a cliff!
Q: Just want to say that you all are absolutely cooking. Appreciate the work that you've been putting in!
CHUMI: Thank you so much! We will continue doing our best! 🙇
Q: Will we be seeing Cliper and Swifer again? I miss them!
CHUMI: A bonus comic featuring Swifer was just released on the Patreon, so it’ll be publicly available in 2 months HEHE. While drawing it, I became a Swifer and Cliper fan.
Q: what do you have to say to the haters (aka what are your responses to some of the common criticisms of the most recent update [mostly things that have shown up on this sub] that i dont feel like parroting here)
also, do you believe there is someone who is supposed to be "in the right" during the big End of Act 1 argument? since, besides Karkat really, which is addressed in-comic, it seems everyone, including Vriska, probably had some problems in their actions from what I have seen people say. im mostly on the fence of trying to figure out if this is good or bad writing or not, as if the intention was that everyone was supposed to be a little in the wrong, i think it checks out, but otherwise im not really sure how to feel. honestly not knowing how to feel has been my response to this update in general. (besides the art being awesome that's not really a question)
FLORAL: Criticism is necessary part of the story reader engagement, people are allowed to not agree with our choices as writers because they are choices not rock solid, visions of truth that come to us in visions. Honestly, I think what I’d love to see is how people would handle things differently if handed these same scenarios. When I disagreed with Homestuck as a fan, I did that a lot and it built my ability as a writer so much and it has a soft place in my heart to see love put into fanon like that.
As for whose “right” I wanted to answer this question very genuinely and say that it was really important to us in the writer’s room that the argument in the last update felt real to the characters and their differing values (and consistent to the continuity of what has happened to them up until this point in the story). That meant flawed perspectives, lacking context or driven by trauma and emotion. Utilitywise, this is a convo less about whose right and whose wrong but instead bringing the characters into awareness about each other and just where they stand after avoiding all their differences for 20+ years.
JAMES: We are going to write the story we write, but it is important to be able to listen to your audience and make them feel heard. Sure, there is a bit of bad faith among the valid criticism but it actually just means a lot to me that anyone cares enough to have an opinion. If they didn’t care at all they would just leave.
Who’s in the right? Sollux. This shit sucks and it's not fun, so, he left.
Q: Hey everyone, I kinda want to know what was your favorite panel to work on/create? Also care to drop any hints for where the story goes from here?
KIM: I think my favorite panels are anything with intense action in them because I can always get stylistically experimental with them, hehe. The Jake vs Jane update was a riot, anything with Hell Tier Vriska, and also the recent panel with all the adults in Guardian Mode lookin’ down at John I’m real happy about!
CHUMI: My favorite panels to make are stuff made for the Flash! In the comic, I liked how the Rose-covering-Harry-and-Vrissy’s-Eyes panel turned out!
HAVEN: So many, The Home on page 592 almost killed me while I was working on it but it fills me with joy, literally any panel with Al, the Dirk and Terezi panels during the previous 4/13 update, the Jane’s severed head panel i got to finalize over a kim sketch (the really scary crazy one), and “Kids: Escape from above." another awesome one I'm very proud of.
FLORAL: I haven’t been drawing panels as long as everyone else, but I fucking loved drawing Jake’s hopesplosion and winged stance in the flash, along with the Dead!Dave super close shot and Jade punching John. I was kicking my feet so much. Besides that, I loved boarding update 6, update 12 and this last update and watching them come to life.
JAMES: Something I stressed very early on in HSBCs production is that it is very purposeful when and how we see the characters in various modes, especially in Candy. In the latest update, when we get a command for John to “be present” we are seeing the small classic sprites that they had when they were children. When we switch to Vriska as the focus, the adults are relatively normal sized again. There is some switching around and the way character are portrayed kind of shifts here and there. Eventually we switch to back to John after the big punch and we see that he suddenly sees that everyone here is an adult, literally towering over him. Everyone has grown up but him. Kim really knocked it out of the park with this panel, and I feel like that's the high point in this whole act for me.
Q: For any of you: If Lyndis, Hector, and Lilina from Fire Emblem were trolls, what would their blood castes be?
Also did you know that Fire Emblem's anniversary is 1 week away from Homestuck's? And that it's on 4/20?
MILES: I am so chastened to say this but unfortunately I can only really answer Fire Emblem questions about the Gamecube/Wii era games and Awakening through Engage. I’m... so sorry...................................... can I offer you a blueblood Dimitri in this trying time? A fuschia Edelgard with experimental limeblood transfusions? I need to not get started on this or I’ll go a little crazy.
Q: question for everyone: what’s everyone’s favorite music albums? (not homestuck, just generally)
question for anyone: how exactly is the notion of format/medium handled during the planning process? for example, were the vrisual novel and [s] 8r8k conceived with their current format in mind, or were they planned as standard pages at first? i pestered james on tumblr a couple weeks ago about the possibility of the more verbose prose only pages returning, but i guess im just more curious about how much medium shifts are considered!
question for kohi: how complete is your bionicle collection these days? are you into custom mocs, or do you just collect the standard kits?
KOHI: I've been chipping away at a full collection of all the retail sets, the canonized models, and the blind bag collectibles. I'm pretty far along on most of those collections, I'd say total progress is at least 90% complete. You can be the judge yourself, though: https://imgur.com/a/nSI1BnH
KIM: The vrisual novel and [S] 8r8k we’re both deliberately planned as is! I think the only thing so far that expanded much more in scope than we expected was the [S] page where Vriska was getting absorbed into the Plot Point portal. We talked about it in a past artist commentary on the Patreon, but I think the writers initially just proposed it as a fancy gif. Though, during production, I proposed it needed some more oomph to really get the drama and mystery across and everyone agreed!
MILES: Nobody answered the album question, so I’m gonna hop in and say that Heligoland and Mezzanine by Massive Attack are no-skip perfect albums.
Q: Will we be getting any shorter/more frequent sound pages going forward? Will you be doing long and ambitious animations like this again?
Great finale to act 1! Loving the direction!
MILES: We abso-LUTELY want to do [S] pages of all manner of length, complexity, and... medium? They are, of course, sometimes really labor and even a bit money intensive depending on guest artist work, but the process of doing 8r8k was so damn cool. But yeah, we wanna shake it up! More little gags, more short but sweet impactful animations, long ones, maybe even more visual novel talksprite fun. We want to try and do as much as we can. There are moments that just kind of need a little extra oomph, and we wanna give it to you. We’ve also all LEARNED so much, so hopefully it gets easier and easier to churn out, though of course it’ll always be a real time and effort investment. But you guys are worth it.
Q: It's fair to say, I think, that progress on beyondcanon.com has not been as been fast as initially planned. It's been a year since the website launched, and https://beyondcanon.com/recap is still "Returning Soon" and https://beyondcanon.canny.io/ has not seen much progress, even for the typo revisions, which had initially been fixed rather quickly, but has slowed down in recent months.
I believe James mentioned in a newspost at some point that work on the website would slow down for a bit, perhaps to prepare for the Flash. Is that what's slowed things down? Or is all the attention being spent on homestuck.com? Something else?
KOHI: That about sums it up, yeah. Between the v(r)isual novel, [S] 8r8k, Homestuck.com, and early development of the Official Homestuck Collection -- all of which requiring a level of technical involvement -- minor bug fixes and typo revisions for the site have taken a temporary backseat, just as a matter of priority. That being said: once the issues plaguing Homestuck.com have been squared away, addressing these issues will be back on my agenda.
Q: What's everyone's favorite non-canon class? (Ex: Nick, Douche, Gent, Huss.)
CHUMI: Probably Gent of Piss.
Q: In celebration of Yiffy's first voiced line, I'm curious; in language as evasive as physically possible, which yet-unseen characters are y'all most pumped to write for?
JAMES: gavageCunctation and friends. We had a writers room a few weeks ago with them as the focus and its everything i'd hoped for and more.
Q: Who are your favorite dancestors?? Which troll shares your zodiac sign? ALSO KIM I LOVE YOUR LANQUE ART, especially the ones with Wanshi!!
MILES: Meenah and Aranea.
HAVEN: Meenah and Aranea.
JAMES: Opting out of this bit basically immediately.
CHUMI: I’ll be contrarian and say Meenah and Aranea. (Also I am an Aries)
ANDI: What they said.
KIM: I'm glad you like the art! Anyone who knows me knows I'm cuckoo bananas for jadebloods, so I'm happy to always provide hehe
Q: Whose silhouette was that in the new update? Though I think us fans with keen eyes already have an idea.
HAVEN: You have to guess.
MILES: Ultra Instinct Goku.
JAMES: fuck i wish that were true
Q: Hi team, great job on the recent updates, extremely excited for the June developments being hinted at from the end of act update. Just one central question: with the Nipah in Vriska hell and Kyrie Rose from the patreon, as well as Rose’s attempted suicide in 8r8k visually referencing Urasawa’s monster, homestuck seems to finally be becoming anime.
How has the process of selecting new pop cultural reference points to work into the language of the comic been going? Are there works that you would consider key touchstones for your approach to the comic in terms of influence? And have Homestuck and Umineko secretly been the same thing all along?
FLORAL: TBF I haven’t seen The Monster anime yet, only read the manga so I can’t say that my contribution is making Homestuck anime. But I would say with referencing things, we focus on things that are really important to us and not just passing fancy or currently relevant. EX. I wanted to reference Monster because I felt like the nihilism of Johan would add so much context to the Rose’s own suicide. But also Monster as a whole has really influenced me along with all of Satoshi Kon’s work.
Q: I love the comic so far! I was wondering what your panel workflow is? I'm working on an MSPFA with some friends and I want to know how your write/revision/write goes!
MILES: The writers start by all getting together and trying to roughly outline basic plot beats, then refining that outline down to “update by update” chunks. Then, when it comes time to write a given update, we currently all get together and write it together in call! Floral is a fantastic boarder so we tend to sort of write and board simultaneously, then comes finished dialogue/narrative passes, and then we see which artists want to do which panels, or if a given artist wants to take a whole update for the final panels! Lots of input and collaboration happens between writers and artists on all steps, though. We try, and fail, but really try, to lock things in early, but every now and then one of us looks at what we’ve got and realizes we have a tweak we just HAVE to make. Nothing bad ever happens because of this.
FLORAL: As for art, we’ve been playing with different workflows recently but ones the thumbnails are done by the writers, and a color script has been made, we push the update along to the assigned artist, and we’ll do art jams as a team if there is any visual development in need of …. developing.
Q: Hello. First time sending questions to an AMA ever, so apologies if I don't understand site etiquette.
1: For any of the writers/artists, is there any character that you dislike working on? And not because you dislike the character or anything, its just annoying getting them exactly right. (If the answer involves someone we haven't seen yet, yk feel free to ignore this).
2: For the writers, HS can be absurd a good majority of the time, and that's part of the humor. So I have to ask how do you balance that absurdity/humor out, personally? Like what is your mindset to make sure that neither you nor the audience overindulge in either end of zaniness/melodrama, and just get numb to it? When do you pump the brakes?
3: For anyone, is there anything you would've done differently with act 1 now that you can look back at it? Like if you had the dream of infinite money, infinite time, and the world wasn't constantly on fire/on the brink of catching fire, would you have changed something?
Thank you for reading, even if you don't answer; have a good day/night.
MILES: Welcome to AMA’s! Thank you for joining us :J 1: I think the character I dislike writing the most is John, honestly, because I feel like I have to think the hardest about getting his weird-ass mindstate exactly right. He’s a bit less intuitive for me than a lot of the other characters, and feels a bit more informed by the scenes he shows up in than driven by a Really Strong Voice in the way that other characters are. Still fun, but I’ll admit he’s tough! 2: For the humor balance, it’s really trial and error. We know the dramatic beats well in advance, but humor often emerges when we’re actually writing the final pass/script versions of the updates, and it often just comes down to: how good is the joke, and is there enough space for the drama to shine on its own if we include it? We do a lot of readthroughs of the updates in call to get a sense of the momentum of the scene, and it’s usually during those that it becomes clear if a joke is Too Much or hurts the scene more than it helps it. Luckily, though, Homestuck juggles comedy and tragedy pretty frenetically, so we have a lot of wiggle room! 3: To be honest, nah? I love what we did with Act 1. Maybe if we could have just gotten all the Hell-tier VN updates out faster so it wasn’t like two solid months of it, but I love what we did for it anyway so it’s not too much a thorn in my side.
KIM: I don’t know why, but Aradia is always so tricky for me to draw… She’s got such a specific vibe to her expression and attitude, and I find I keep challenging myself to get it right. Her schrodinger’s horn shape in the base comic don’t help either LOL.
ANDI: Not particularly. I’m trying to think of which character took the LONGEST for me to get right, but I’m otherwise okay with drawing. I think it’d be Dirk. I remember the scene where BGD took off his glasses, I was seriously going through several forms of torture trying to get his eyes to look right on a face that has NEVER had even so much as an implication of the eye. Everyone else has been pretty straightforward for me. My main struggles are more technicalities, rather than character designs.
CHUMI: I think AlCal was the hardest for me to draw, even though I did a whole update for her. I just never drew that much of her before HS:BC!
FLORAL: 1. Honestly even if I don’t have strong opinions on a character, once I get to writing them I usually end up loving them. As for characters, I only don’t like boring characters and thankfully Homestuck is pretty good about not having those. 2. Honestly I think the biggest strength of us as writer’s is that we aren’t afraid of ridiculous ideas, but are committed and critical about justifying them. I love stupid and insane but it can’t be try hard or random. 3. If we had INFINITE money, probably make the flash a little bit longer. But besides that, everything is amazing, and everyone has really taken every part of Act 1 and exceeded my expectations with it.
Q: who is yall favorite character?
ANDI: When I close my eyes, a flash image of Dave Strider appears. So I'm gonna go with that.
CHUMI: Jade freaking Harley. Gun to my head I had to choose another, probably Karkat. I could go on…
MILES: Karkat, Rose, and Dave. I could never pick just one, and my runner ups (Dirk, Equius, Gamzee) need a mention too. I’m too greedy.
KIM: Depends, how big of the *le Homestuck Universe* are we including… If it’s just base Homestuck, my favorite characters are John and Feferi! I literally own an original framed painting of Feferi in my house LOL. If we include Beyond Canon, Yiffy and Harry. If we include Hiveswap, Lanque.
JAMES: Aradia. I will keep saying this as many times as I can.
FLORAL: I LOVE JADE HARLEY!!!! EVERY VERSION OF HER!!!! But besides that I love John too and Rose and Karkat and Kanaya and Vriska and JAKE(!!!!) and (goes on forever and forever)
Q: Is Hell Tier a reference to Limit Form from Kingdom Hearts 2?
CHUMI: Nope.
Q: What does Vriska smell like?
MILES: Come on.
Q: So what is the symbolism/decision behind framing the last part of the update through the eyes of dead Dave, in particular the choice to depict John and Jade as almost skeletal like?
Helltier Vriska’s halo becoming a portal is super cool, are the visuals within just for fun/style points or is there a meaning to abstract images flashing away inside?
Was Tavy scratching his head in frustration because he was struggling on deciding if he was to go? Or was it because he saw his dead neglectful mother couldn’t even be put down by being decapitated and was frustratingly realizing the only way to escape her was to leave?
Is there meaning to the way the kids are drawn as Vriska lifts them away? Like for example Harry seems to be the only one not wrapped up and is just kind of barely clinging almost like he is still feeling a pull down to world he is leaving. While Tavvy seems to be gently embraced and lifting up as if he has become lighter?
Which Omega(?) kid’s arc are you most excited for?
FLORAL: Hello!! I boarded and drew the Dead!Dave part of the update and honestly I would love to leave the symbolism open to you guys to figure out the intention! I know it sucks to hear but what’s most important is understanding how the individual feels and how that works in tandem with the intention of the scene. I will say, as the only adult to leave Candy we couldn’t not have his presence felt in this conversation.
Q: The Omega Kids (seems like that's the official name) are 3 humans and 1 Troll. Is there a reason for this imbalance?
MILES: The Candy adults didn’t know they were going to be sending their kids to Skaia’s Sequel Surprise when they had them and so, foolishly, failed to cultivate their next generation in a way that’d line up more neatly.
Q: How do you plan on populating the music for future albums? Will you be messaging prominent fanmusic creators for their input?
JAMES: here it is ok. sheesh. i spent such a long time looking for this question just now and ended up answering a handful of different ones LMAO.
So previously the music was done on a sort of volunteer basis, with the forums acting as a sort of central hub for a selected team of people. I'd like to do something similar, and offer compensation in the form of percentage of the album sales, much like the old set up. Only the percentage would be larger and the team, overall, would be smaller. Right now I'm not certain how to recruit for a new music team without flooding my inbox with submissions that I will sadly have to turn most of down.
I am thinking I will approach people individually and build up a small team of collaborators and contributors sort of like how it was done before with the caveat that I am very open to suggestions and recommendations. I said before that I'd love to have some of the old team back as well, if they'd be willing to Get The Band Back Together but I'd also understand their apprehension to work with WP/HICU or I. I also want to give opportunities to new and upcoming musicians as well. I have a few people in mind and i'll build from there.
if you guys have suggestions on individual artists I should be listening to, I'd love to hear them.
Q: What have the Felt been up to after all this time? Those goobers still kicking?
HAVEN: They were on the moon building the laser and (presumably other things) for Jane! They showed up on page 628.
Q: Fortnite when?
MILES: Hop on now, bro. Let’s secure this W.
JAMES: As much as I talk about fortnite I haven’t played it in months and I’m dogshit at it.
Q: Just 1 question,
was rewriting homestuck^2 into homestuck beyond canon fully from scratch and not picking up where it left from ever a consideration? since the epilogues were so disliked I feel like it might have been a thought at some point
FLORAL: Nope. We all felt pretty excited to take what the epilogues gave us and see it through. The fun thing about the epilogues is with it’s unreliable narrators, we had so much to explore and chances to frame things in these awesome transformative ways! It’s like a big puzzle.
JAMES: I was originally tasked with FINISHING the story, which is what I plan to do.
MILES: Rewriting it would have been a waste of a lot of great concepts! Part of what we hope to do here is encourage people who didn’t like the Epilogues to give it another chance.
Q: Hey guys! First off, thanks for taking the Herculean task of continuing Beyond Canon. I really enjoy the direction the team is taking the story, and can't wait to see where exactly you land!
As for my question, what does collaborating look like on the day-to-day basis? I imagine there's a lot of plates spinning behind the scenes, but is it constant roundtable discussions/revisions? Do people have spheres that they're in charge of? Just meme spamming in Slack?
Also, what kind of future merch is on the table? You guys floated the possibility of Homestuck vinyl, which has me salivating, but anything else exciting that you're thinking about?
CHUMI: Thank you for sticking with us! At the very least, we have meetings at the end of every month to summarize what’s going on and bring up new questions. Additionally, there are writers meetings every week and artist draw-meets often as well. We try to keep each other as updated as possible about new ideas, designs, etc! We also share a lot of funny stuff and favorite fanarts in our lounge chat!
As for merch, I don’t want to confirm or deny anything until it’s 100% certain. Do know that I am always fighting for more cool stuff!!
KIM: I am fighting alongside Chumi in the mines fighting for more cool merch stuff as well (because I also want cool Homestuck stuff).
CHUMI: Kim is my eternal comrade in this fight.
Q: with most of our characters having two entirely separate versions of them, a cast of omega kids, and a yet unseen cast of deltritus characters... would you say there's room in the future to focus screentime on previously explored character concepts that may be considered "retreading old ground"? i know i'd love to see new exiles or fresh variants of the agents of derse as more than background elements. those moments of problem sleuth style narration jack noir and his crew had were always very fun to read.
CHUMI: We’ll see a fair number of new characters and revisit some old ones! 😊
JAMES: Yes and some people have already speculated some things very closely which is amazing. To your second question, also yes. I would love to say more in these answers but I am beholden to not spoil the story.
Q: roblox collab when
MILES: Find us the 12 year olds to make it happen.
HAVEN: In all seriousness I know there's some homestucks over with the Nico’s Nextbots people and it would be cool to get a Homestuck themed Regretavator level in there. IDK I’d love to have anything anywhere.
Q: Legally, are you allowed to criticize decisions made by the previous team(s)? Like, can you say "yeah this was a tough one to figure out how to make an actually serious emotional resolution to"?
MILES: Legally? Of course, but I don’t think spending our time criticizing previous decisions helps us write Beyond Canon any better, to be honest. We all feel like we’re in a position to write a pretty good story and nothing we inherited has felt like it weighed us down.
Q: Hey HICU team, love your work! I have a question that I’ve been curious about for a while; In the Vriska prison break update, there was a recruitment poster encouraging people to enlist in Jane’s army. However, in a later update, Jane says her army consists entirely of clones, rather than any enlisted soldiers. Why is this?
(Some bonus questions if that’s ok; who are the clones based on? How are Genn and Errick (the troll and clone from the flash) doing?) Hope y’all are doing well, best of luck on future upd8s!
JAMES: Nobody joined.
Q: Will we ever learn more about the Shadow Quadrants?
I think they are meant to be a joke, but I think it would be funny if they were real.
JAMES: i keep laughing about this what the hell is a shadow quadrant
Q: What is your favorite vegetable?
MILES: Have you ever seen Romanesco Broccoli? Look it up, it’s beautiful... a magnificent fractal of foliage... its beauty is such that it takes my #1 spot despite not being my favorite to eat.
ANDI: Brussel sprouts for days…
KIM: brogle
CHUMI: I love Chinese Long Bean and Loofah!
JAMES: I know this is going to sound insane but vegetables aren’t actually real.That’s not a bit, it’s true.
FLORAL: Brussel Sprouts are so good, along with green beans and cabbage!
Q: [deleted]
MILES: Future arachnidsGrip.
Q: Also! Who chose the names for Vriska’s echeladder? As someone with a degree in early childhood I thought the callbacks to psychology was great, especially Piaget haha
FLORAL: We made a big document that everyone contributed to!! Mostly we wanted to stick with what Vriska’s specific journey called. Boundary Respecter was my fave.
CHUMI: I’m currently in grad school for something psych related, so I just threw in as many terms as possible.
MILES: The whole team got together and cranked out as many fire and psychology related puns as we could think of before we started wanting to jump off a cliff!
JAMES: miles you cant say the whole team got together and cranked
Q: Hi folks,
My biggest burning question that has been smoldering in my head for awhile is: What do you refer to the 4 kids in Candy as? I've seen a bunch of different group names like Candy kids, the Omega Kids, the Gamma Kids, help us standardize the correct name for the group!
Q: Their Patreon already confirms it's the Omega Kids. That isn't a theory or fan guess.
JAMES: Yes it is the Omega Kids
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EDIT: I think we are done for today. Me and Dril are putting on our Sleeping
Q: To dril: what made you get into twitter shitfunposting and how did you become a master of it?
DRIL: my friend told me to join twitter ten years ago and i thought it looked dumb as shit so i tried posting the worst things i could think of to destroy it and it didnt work
Q: To dril: Have you ever overheard people discussing your work in public? Do your family and friends know about your twitter fame? Have you ever written poetry?
To KC Green: I'm a huge fan of HIAGB and your assorted other works. Which is more difficult to you, the art or the actual storytelling? Have you ever written poetry?
DRIL: there were a good 6 or 7 years where nobody knew about my internet shit but it's unavoidable now. this is my Cross to bear
in 5th grade they made us write poems and i didnt really know what poems were so I wrote one about our local news anchor jim gardner.
KC GREEN: i used to think telling a story, but sometimes I get bored of my art cus i'm looking at it all the time. it's rare for me to be really happy with something, but I do what I can and move on to find that rare moment.
KC GREEN: i have written old short comics I consider like poetry, but not just poems no
Q: what are your opinions on the game 'Bratz: Girls Really Rock (2008)' for the wii?
DRIL: idont think its right to call girls brats. theyre our angels. our wifes
Q: dril: Why have you still not returned my heirloom food processor after borrowing it fifteen years ago?
DRIL: it sucked ass and now its is sleeping with the fishes
Q: dril: How does it feel that the President of the United States stole your bit?
DRIL: I think hes trying his best and that it he is our president, and will remain our president until he is dragged across the white house lawn in handcuffs
Q: 1. what is your opinion on neil cicierega and his work?
2. what is your favorite kind of cereal?
3. what is the best sbahj comic strip?
4. how much of the upcoming book is hussie's work? i trust all three of you to output something of the highest (which is to say, the lowest possible) caliber, but the big man's involvement in it is unclear to me.
DRIL: neils good. when i was like 13, I sent him a really dumb ass email with a dumb ass picture attached and told him to put it in one of his cartoons and he did it. he's a greater person than I, since if someone did that to me i would call the cops on them
2. honey bunches of oats is right. thank you kc
3. ive never looked at any of them. theyre crass to me
4. he`s our butler
KC GREEN: 1: love him. grew up watching his work from animutations to now.
2: hONEY BUNCHES oF OATS
3: Subway Stonk
4: hussies and dril collabed on story. hussie inked and colored and deep fried the pictures. it's a collaborative joint of idiots. we all get the blame
Q: dril: were there any negative side effects that came as a result of your doxxing? I really enjoyed how the twitter community rallied around you afterwards
DRIL: people have been surprisingly normal about the whole thing. i think someone called my parents at like 1am once but that's about it. i dont really have a permanent address right now or a sordid past so theres not much to dox anyway
Q: Dril: Why are you obsessed with diapers?
DRIL: why are you obsessed with toilets
Q: What makes the BBQ Sauce that comes with the book so special?
KC GREEN: I think Dril made it
DRIL: i dont know anything about the sauce other than that its a taste sensation
Q: Dril: hi
KC: hey
To both: which of you think you got the better hello?
DRIL: Take this down
KC GREEN: more letters = better than
Q: Will we finally get an explanation for Shrek in [S]Collide?
Is Hussie a robot?
What's your opinion on cool and new web comic?
ANDREW: Shrek is Eridan's father.
Q: As it must be an important skill for twitter funnymen, what are your best tactics for dealing with *randos?*
DRIL: personally I like to take them to task on my timeline as loudly as possible iin order to strategically eliminate them mentally
KC GREEN: turning around and closing my eyes
Q: @kc do you know who dril is?
@dril do you know who kc is?
KC GREEN: im holding dril's hand currently
DRIL: hes the guy who invented kc masterpiece
Q: MR. DRIL: How does it feel to know you've inspired a whole new language of jokes on the internet, as well as thousands of copycats?
Also, is it weird that you have an entire long sourced Wikipedia page about your exploits?
DRIL: it feels like being a Cop, but with more power
Q: You guys discussed nearly including a knife with the book. Were there any other ideas for either backer rewards or the physical book copies that didn't make it into the final product?
DRIL: we decided the knife would inadequately protect our readers from danger and have replaced it with an affordable gun
KC GREEN: no the knife was the biggest problem i had to stop.
Q: either of you can answer since I know you're both experts on the matter. would donkey kong support net neutrality?
DRIL: i have full faith in donkey kong the ape to choose the most dire possible path for the future of our country
Q: either of you can answer since I know you're both experts on the matter. would donkey kong support net neutrality?
KC GREEN: that ape doesnt know dick
Q: Dril: Are there any tweets you genuinely regret having made?
DRIL: "ALL OF THEN"
Q: Dril: Are you Catholic?
DRIL: not really,. but i did all the rituals that will ensure my passage into heaven
Q: Hi dril are you free tomorrow. ?
DRIL: Nope
Q: Dril: What are some of the top ten things you would wanna hear in the nursing profession?
DRIL: thats ten questions. you only deserve one
Q: Did they let you fuck the flag yet?
DRIL: ok i told the mods to not let this kind of thing in here
Q: Throughout Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff's original run, I think you have to agree that there is a certain continuity to the art. Old elements are used and reused, time and time again, in ways that they really should not be used. These elements get exaggerated over time, with errors that arose due to distortions being incorporated into the art style. The path from from this to this to this is traceable and makes sense, albeit in its own twisted way.
However, the upcoming Quest for the Missing Spoon book seems to have a brand new art style, one which has super-deformed proportions from the very start if this is anything to go by. With this seeming reboot to the art's continuity, do you feel you've earned the right to start out this shit with this new style? And furthermore, will this new style undergo an evolution throughout the book akin to the one that the original comic went through? Thanks.
DRIL: i believe ive earned lots of rights as a marinecorps army vet, and also as a gamer, and that includes the right to obliterate the artistic continuity oif a web comic if it pleases me to do so
KC GREEN: yes
Q: KC: Are there any plans to involve Anthony Clark in the SBaHJ Readematic Universe as well? What do you think his HOT TAKE on the characters would be?
dril: What's your process for coming up with shit all the time like that?
DRIL: i would imagine the process I use to come up with posts is similar to the processes people use to do normal things like driving and ordering lunch
KC GREEN: Anthony is too precious a commodity and smart a person to ever touch this hot pile of garbage called Swwet bra and hello jeof
Q: ideal end of day meal?
DRIL: 1 gallon of fresh milk
Q: As a tiny preamble, I'd just like to say thanks to both of you: I emailed KC a couple years ago while suffering from depression and got a response that was genuinely helpful, and Dril has always managed to provide a break in the monotony when I need one. Keep doing your thing guys.
My actual question is a bit generic unfortunately. To both of you: what is your favorite part about working on the SBAHJ book, your comics/chronic twitter-posting, or both?
KC GREEN: i liked reading dril's layouts and writing while I was re-drawing it for print. that was a fun way to read a book.
Q: KC, what was the inspiration for HIAGB and Back? How is working on them different from your past work?
dril, where did you come from?
DRIL: bath room
KC GREEN: I wanted hiagb to be more darker and a road show about a single character dealing with dark thoughts and things. a slight extension from the usual fair from gunshow, but more narrow minded with a story that developed along the way. BACK was cus I wanted to collaborate on an actiony cow-boy story with more fantasy settings. Ideas about them fly around and as I work on them both, I find the right ones to use and build this bridge.
Q: Dril: in 6 words, why should I buy your book instead of 4 Keurig machines I can destroy?
DRIL: because it is s good
Q: Dril: What got you into the twitter funnyman business to start with?
KC Green: What's your opinion on the massive popularity of that This Is Fine dog?
KC GREEN: it's okay
Q: @dril and KC, what kind of question should I ask you?
KC GREEN: This kind, right here. Thank you for your service.
Q: To both: What do you think of your fanbases?
DRIL: villains
Q: To Dril: Will you ever log off?
To both: What would you say is the essence of Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff?
DRIL: i would say theyre just two normal people
KC GREEN: that they are fat and bad at everything, plus a mix of arrogance and surreal-forever-lingering joke telling
Q: Both: what is a joke/comic/tweet you made that you're very proud of but didn't get as much attention as you expected?
DRIL: honeslty the opposite happens far more often. i dont know why everyones so wild over the skeleton war thing and i never will
Q: Dril: What did you end up doing with those candles?
DRIL: I had sex with them Rofl.
Q: Dril: How are you and Digimon Otis these days?
DRIL: hes a filthy hyena, and my book will include a dossier that will take down digimon otis once and for all
Q: dril: i am a poet and i really believe you have a gift with words. i made a poem inspired by you 2 years ago. do you like it? this is the poem: http://taluluto.tumblr.com/post/112227460686/sisyphus-is-a-found-poem-created-entirely-from
kc green: this isn't really a question and i'm sorry, but at MICE last year, do you remember stopping to get lunch and talking to joel christian gill while doing so? you were wearing a spongebob shirt? i was the blond girl sitting across from joel, who was my professor at the time. i'd admired gunshow comic and anime club but i had no idea what you looked like and right after you left joel mentioned who you were and i freaked the hell out that i hadn't gotten to say hi to you and tell you i love your work. well, i love your work!
KC GREEN: i dont have a spongebob shirt, but it might of been my bart simpsons ANIME shirt? thats the closest big yellow thing I would of had on my chest I could think of. Anyway hi! thank you.
Q: Dril:
1. what social media sites / forums do you actually frequent, and which of them do you think of as genuinely cool communities? Are you somewhere out there posting normal shit under a regular name?
2. How much do you use Reddit?
DRIL: i portray online forums very kindly in this book , and thats all i will say of that
Q: The two pages we can see on the kickstarter look pristine, maybe too pristine for the Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff we love.
Can we expect other parts of the book to feature the classic "deep-fried" SBAHJ style? Andrew Hussie mentioned editing some of the pages, but I'm not sure what this means in practice.
KC GREEN: Yeah, Hussie has the only power to "Deeped Frie" the images as per everyone's usual desire. But we are telling a narrative too. one that you can actually follow. so i guess there needs to be some leeway and compromise.
ANDREW: It is not correct to say that SBAHJ comics must always look like the worst possible garbage. In truth there is an acceptable range. Some pages can look kind of ok, others will look like they've been deep fried to hell and back. If you make it a rule that everything must be deep fried to the max then suddenly you lose the ability to appreciate some of the exceptionally putrid looking material. If everything looks like shit, nothing does. I went through and applied just the right amount of jpeg loss and artifact scum to every page, as needed. Some pages have a light touch, others are complete abominations.
Q: this reads like a comment from andrew but this is just some random new account so i dont know what to believe
Q: "horse_enjoyer" sounds like a username he'd be liable to make, so I'd say it's still on the table
ANDREW: I didn't want to turn a dril/kc AMA into one huge Homestuck disaster AMA so I didn't say I would be here, but here I am, disguised as a humble Horse Enjoyer. Asking loads of Homestuck questions in front of these guys strikes me as unseemly. It's like if the pope was traveling through your village in a horse drawn carriage. But instead of going up to kiss his ring, you ignore him and run up to the guy riding the horse to show him your Yugioh cards or something. It's just wrong.
Q: Hussie plz look at my Yugioh collection it's rlly cool XD
ANDREW: Ok, show them to me.
Q: not the OP but here’s a few of mine in a very poorly lit and poorly shot environment
https://i.imgur.com/p3jMpIY.jpg
ANDREW: Oh, wow. Now this is some good shit. I'm going to tell the boys that we won't need to delete this AMA after all. Thank you, Griever13_37.
Q: Dril: Favorite dog?
KC: Favorite dog?
KC GREEN: whatever dog is currently in my sights is my favorite dog
Q: to both of you: are you privy to any other future works related to hussies dumb comic?
KC GREEN: yes, he's working on homestuck 2; back 2 the sburbs coming out this spring
Q: How "shitty" can you honestly say the new book will be? As in, will it be readable by people who know nothing about SBaHJ? Or will it be extremely niche and highly ironic?
KC GREEN: the book is not shitty it's "good"
DRIL: Thats correct kc
Q: Dril: What is the source of your twitter profile image?
KC Green: What do you prefer on your Pizza?
DRIL: sewer
Q: To dril: how do you feel about people trying to uncover your identity?
DRIL: i think people have uncovered it plenty of times, but theres nothing scandalous enough there to make it worth publicizing and looking like an ass hole while doing so
Q: KC: How much did the popularity of the "this is fine" comic surprise you?
dril: dril more like will cause that's what you'll be writing when I'm done with you motherfucjer
KC GREEN: it "surprises me" that it keeps on being a thing that is used even today. please let my boy sleep
Q: KC: I can't fail to see how you left your greatest achievement out of the OP.
How did it you arrive at the concept of Dickbutt, and how much are you still grieved by him today?
KC GREEN: i dont care about dickbutt anymore and freely let it go now to anyone who wants to use it. Even that idiot who wanted to make a kickstarter for a dickbutt billboard in california or something. You can do that now, dude. I don't care.
Q: KC: do you consider Paradox Space more of a failed experiment, or a successful project that ended on its own terms? Are there any comics you wish you could have made- and is there anything preventing you from tweeting Homestuck fan comics independently?
KC GREEN: i guess it was successful enough! I liked doing the work for it and it paid which is rare to find online. I wouldn't tweet fan comics the way the very real and very big homestuck fanbase would and does. They have a way closer relationship to it than myself. I was happy to join in, even tho my first one about the zoo wasn't accepted that well, which is fair. I was more into the sweet bros and hella jeffs in general, tho I followed HS when it first got started up for a bit.
Q: hello dril are there any plans to continue making cartoons like the one called cow-boy you did some time ago? i would pay you money if you made more they are good thanks
DRIL: i would love to return to animation in some form,.. although it wouldnt be a cow-boy or "dril" thing as i have a bunch of newer ideas im more excited to pursue
KC GREEN: i would also pay money for cow-boy to be finished
Q: Is BBQ sauce ever acceptable in a breakfast setting? Is brunch good?
DRIL: "its always breakfast some where"
KC GREEN: thats the main ingredient in COWBOY STYLE EGGS, so I think its perfectly acceptable. Brunch is fine, but just barely.
Q: Are you a bathroom jerker or bedroom jerker?
KC GREEN: the luxury of laying on your bed can not contend with being hunched over a dirty sink or toilet.
Q: how do you get cowboy paint off a dog?
KC GREEN: With dog water!!!!!!
Q: KC: how did you feel when Hussie got unexpectedly SWOLE?
KC GREEN: honry
Q: Dril: Will you eat my ass for $10?
KC: Is your name pronounced "Kaysee" or "Ksss"?
DRIL: i wouldnt even eat my own ass for $ 10
KC GREEN: can i switch questions with dril
Q: Is there anything not horribly spoilery you're both excited about in the book? what are your insparations in both of your arts? :D
KC GREEN: the final 3 pages had me in stitches when i first read it. and to draw online is my inspiration enough
Q: Dril: Can you give us an update on the McShitter?
DRIL: i posted a picture of him on the patreon. other than that hes dead
Q: how did you guys meet?
KC GREEN: online
DRIL: online
Q: dril and KC, what content have you created that you are most ashamed of?
DRIL: i took a picture of my ass once and deleted it
Q: dril and kc:
Ranch or cool ranch?
KC GREEN: just ranch, i aint no big-city type
Q: Dril- are you a Homestuck fan, or were you approached for this job?
To both- do you think SBAHJ was ahead of the curve, using the exact brand of absurdist humor and low quality images associated with millennial humor?
DRIL: everyone involved sorta knows each other through the common link of somethingawful that has existed for over a decade now. i was originally approached to work on the hiveswap game that just came out, but moved over to the book since i t seemed pretty apparent i was better suited to the filthy bro and jeff universe
Q: What convinced you to work on Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff of all things?
KC GREEN: did not need convincing. i begged them, actually. i got on my knees and begged for life.
Q: to both: How did you meet andrew hussie?
DRIL: we all hovered close to the general somethingawful.com community around the mid-2000s and our web of contacts got all mixed up and intertwined as a result
Q: Dril: There has been some discourse about you being against the “(((Keebler Elves)))”. It is a little-known fact that you later sort of apologized in a reply. Have you considered making a more public apology? Has your stance changed again since?
DRIL: i will say only this. thw fact that the keebler company has remained silent throughout this whole thing is disgraceful
Q: I see the kick starter includes fidget spinners, those are bananas and how fast they go?
KC GREEN: well they're actually NOT bananas, their plastic.
Q: Is there a specific twist to the BBQ sauce, or is it just some old regular non-brand, homemade sauce?
Also how did you both come to work on the SBAHJ book?
DRIL: it's just a nice sauce that you can put on whatever you like. the way people are coming on here throwing accusations at us, you would think we were selling them ANTHRAX. Enough.
KC GREEN: it has a cool label on it (the sauce).
Q: Sorry this is such an entry-level question, KC, but who are your favorite and least favorite Homestuck characters?
If Andrew approached you and said you could do a spinoff revolving around one character, who would you choose and why?
KC GREEN: sweet bro and hella jeff and he did and i did sbahj comics for paradox space nEXT QUESTION!!!!!!
Q: To both: do you prefer shoosh or pap?
KC GREEN: pap
Q: What happened to that one video where the guy is chugging a mountain dew to "Stress" by Justice?
DRIL: nothing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u8Fd7EHYAg
Q: KC: I love your work! Does having your "this is fine" dog out there as a huge meme without getting proper attribution frustrating, or are you just happy to have you work reach so many people?
dril: Your brand, to me, is wet pasta. Why was metalGearEric's chili so bad??
KC GREEN: a little of both. it is generally just out of my hands and i do what I can to keep it mine by making merch out of it and saying yes when asked if they could use it in spider man. they asked! most don't.
Q: Dril, I know someone who worked with you IRL a few years back. (Not going to give away any details, don't worry.) Do you still have that job or is this your main source of income?
DRIL: i quit the job to move to delaware and finish my degree. now im just an online content dipshit
Q: To both: What are your opinions on utensils? Do you have any that you are personally privy to or do you have any that especially hate?
My second question (also to both) would be if you lost a spoon what utensil would you use as a replacement? Personally I don't get what the big deal is about spoons though? It's like, yeah so what I can just use a fork, big whup. I'd like to hear your opinions on the dilemma though.
Thank you for your attention.
KC GREEN: forks are good, but a spon has its place. please find place in your heart for a spoon.
Q: Hey all how did it feel to get inside the heads of two titans of comics like Sweet Bro and Hell Of Jeff?
KC GREEN: luckily i could stay outside the heads and just enjoy the rightful antics of these rowdy sons. im like the baby sitter.
Q: dril: what went down between you, epicwayne, and digimonotis?
DRIL: Thtis is not the fucking digimon otis Q&A. Why dont all you digimon otis lovers tell him to start his own Q&A since youre all married to him so much.
Q: [deleted]
KC GREEN: make good poasts
Q: KC: the Duck Dynasty lp you made with Chip is so fucking funny. so was that Simpsons Hit And Run stream. do you intend to do more with Chip?
dril: do u like rap?
KC GREEN: i can't commit to l-p-ing as much as I think i would want to. they were fun to be apart of in the special circumstances they occurred it. god speed chip on the game's
Q: Why are you doing this mr. dril?
I used to look up to you
DRIL: not my problem
Q: First: when and how were you contacted for the book project?
Has Andrew written anything for the book or only Dril did it with Andrew giving support?
Third: How ironically shitty is the art?
Fourth: Do you know who is "o", the creator of Cool and new Webcomic?
ANDREW: I contacted him about it because he was already doing some stealth-writing for a video game I was making. I thought A Sbahj book written by him would be very funny so I pitched the idea to him. I was right, it is funny.
I crafted the basic narrative, and communicated some literary themes that I thought were very important for the work to convey. Aside from that, I felt it was important that all the specific words in the comic came from his pen.
The art is great, and I don't know anything about the other thing.
Q: So, like, is this guy actually Hussie? Or is he just posing as him?
(This is the weirdest application for Poe's Law I've seen yet.)
DRIL: if its not him hes very good at lying
Q: Dril: What do you smell like?
KC: What does dril smell like?
KC GREEN: bbq suace
Q: to dril: what is your favorite thing about wegmans?
DRIL: they fiact that i dont have to tip any of the cashiers , and they cant do shit about it
Q: What if Pinocchio said his nose will grow?
KC GREEN: he'd split in half and die, which is coincidentally, how the actual story ended. way to go, mario kart 2001.
Q: hello my dudes. what is up
do you plan on adding in any new comics that feature intentional or accidental dog fellation? i am very interested in your answer. xoxoxo
ANDREW: I'll make some more, at some point. I doubt any more will involve sucking the dick of man's best friend. But you never know.
Q: How do you come up with your tweets and non-sequitur stuff that you post on Twitter? Sorry but I'm a really, really straightforward concrete-thinking uncreative person.
KC GREEN: theres usually a nugget of truth in my weirder posts, that I distort cartoonishly. or i like how a certain collection of words exists next to each other, and the sound they make when said together.
Q: dril: What is your opinion on the government building prison cells into fire trucks for people who don't move for emergency vehicles?
KC GREEN: do they have to stop and arrest the person, or does the prison cell pop out and gobble them up like some fantastical contraption from a ghibli film
Q: To Dril: Have any of your tweets got you into any trouble, legal or otherwise?
To KC: Who are some of your favorite fellow artists in your field?
KC GREEN: i have a lot of favorites and like bits from everyone. currently this morning i was looking over http://dogsunderstand.tumblr.com/ and loving it
Q: KC: I positively love Graveyard Quest and HiaGB, I think you do a really great job of portraying mortality and general malaise, with that weird-ass surreal humor. I guess my question is, what made you think up GQ?
dril: where did you put my decorative piss cans
KC GREEN: probably dante's inferno. For some reason I was really into the idea of that story and going thru hell like it's a tourist trap. In the back of my head, I think it drove the gravedigger's descent.
Q: kc green, whats your favorite restaurant?
dril - i have no question for you but i have to end this in a question mark?
KC GREEN: chilis
Q: KC Green: Which of your one off comics from Gun Show is you favorite? I still reference Cats Can't Type frequently
KC GREEN: this one http://gunshowcomic.com/comics/20120514-lonelinessvs.png
Q: To KC Green: do you like the song written about the This Is Fine dog that was made for an animal rescue fund during the floods in Texas?
KC GREEN: yes it was sweet (as in nice, not as in cool, which is not a dis at it for not being cool, it is just sweet instead, to be very clear, which i am good at being)
Q: KC: You are always working on at least 4 different comics at the same time... what an impressive feat! How do you manage to maintain this level of discipline and avoid burnout?
KC GREEN: I don't! Please help me!!
Q: You're both very funny writers with a good sense of timing.
How often do you enjoy your own jokes shortly after writing them and when viewing them retrospectively?
Do you see your humor writing as a skill that you've improved over time, or is it more "natural" without effort?
KC GREEN: I will definitely write something that makes me giggle madly at first and appreciate them more in retrospect. It's hard to find the line of "trying too hard" when doing comedy, and looking back at a lot of older work would have me rolling my eyes at it than going "oh that was good." I've learned to let it go if I get stuck wondering if something will land or if I like another joke more over another. cus it will just lead me no where, personally. I'd rather deconstruct other's jokes, the way other people would deconstruct my own.
Q: OxyContin or Adderall?
KC GREEN: i took adderall while working at gamestop once. I hated it but had a good time cus i was on adderall.
Q: Hey, I heard there's this guy called Andrew Hussie. Ever heard of him?
(In case that question is too boring/ironic, how long did it take you to make the book?)
KC GREEN: i did my part over a month or so over the summer. It was a lot to pencil, but All I had to do was just pencil, so I could knock out 3 to 4 pages a day i think.
Q: Question to both, do you listen to anything while writing/drawing? Do you have any album/podcast recommendations?
KC GREEN: i listen to tv shows. currently into family matters.
Q: Is this book ironic, or unironically ironic?
KC GREEN: it is very seriously a book/
Q: KC: What's the typical process behind creating one of your comics? About how long does it take to go from the initial idea, to drawing, to publishing?
dril: Did you ever find a solution to your budgeting problem?
KC GREEN: at most an hour or two per page. Inking and coloring. I like to do all inking of pages at once then all coloring of pages after, if I'm doing a set of pages. If it's a sketch comic or something black and white, it'll take me shorter. I like to keep the process quick and fun and move onto a new thing
Q: To KC: Is the McRib back?
To drill: you are a confederation of rats in an ill-fitting man suit. thanks
KC GREEN: i think so. the mcrib is a bad sandwich that has a fun name to say. I do not like eating it
Q: KC Green, Are you under any duress?
KC GREEN: im f fine *blinks furiously*
Q: @kc: you already have a bit of experience with the wonderful world of sbahj comicmaking, with the ones you made for paradox space (which i absolutely ADORED, by the way). which one of these was your personal favorite and why?
@dril: what is your favorite sbahj comic?
KC GREEN: the one in the sea and the clam. i tried to make it wildly and annoyingly colorful, like paper rad
Q: [removed]
KC GREEN: im that man in the picture. i forgot to write my name on it cus im a stupid fool.
Q: [deleted]
KC GREEN: i hugged him once on the streets. that faightful day, weave never been depart
Q: [deleted]
KC GREEN: blue
Q: KC: How high do you have to be to draw this book?
KC GREEN: Not very, but it made me have a more fun time doing it.
Q: Dril: you are consistently unfunny and make me wretch when I see your stupid face? Delete your account?
DRIL: Im trying to improve it
Q: What IS for lunch anyways?
KC GREEN: this is a breakfast only thread
Q: Jim Gardner sucks ass
DRIL: remove this guy off the page please
MAYONAKA: I doubt many will recognize that name, but for those who do, and for whom the Midnight Crew's conception, the Felt adventure, and that mysterious necklace remain of some interest, this is for you.
It's December 15th, 2008. I'm 17 years old and, like many, I've found myself swept up in the growing internet phenomena that is Problem Sleuth. In my spare time, I'm developing a D&D campaign for my friends, and one of the core factions of that world is the Midnight Crew. In it, they are a mafia-like structure of interplanar criminals. The Midnight Crew's name did not originate from any song, nor was it a reference to anything, I only thought it sounded cool.
Upon seeing that Andrew Hussie is willing to illustrate any comic page for a small donation, I decide to submit my idea to him. I did so under the username Mayonaka, which is simply Midnight in Japanese. What I gave Andrew was by no means comprehensive, and many, many facets of the Midnight Crew characters themselves were purely his creation. It struck a cord with the community and soon other donors were paying to see more of the Midnight Crew.
Fast forward many years and we're deep into Homestuck. Due to the Midnight Crew's popularity in Problem Sleuth (I assume), Andrew decides to make them a major part of his next story. Perhaps unwisely, I decided to step back into the spotlight through the MSPA Forums (may they rest in peace). With the forum handle "Professor," my first adventure there was not The Felt, but actually a strange story titled Voices. It had nothing to do with MSPA, Homestuck, or the Midnight Crew, but gained some small attention. After a short time, I decided to come out as Mayonaka, both to the community and to Andrew, and started a new adventure based on his works.
The Felt was my take on the rival organization Andrew had created for the Midnight Crew, and also explored some of my ideas for where he could go with them. It is also something I regret, for reasons which should become clear by the end of this. Using my connection to the Midnight Crew's creation, I leveraged myself into a position of supposed "semi-canon." Andrew was very polite and helpful when I messaged him repeatedly during the process, as I was trying to ensure that my Felt comic lined up with his vision for the Homestuck world. In retrospect, I wish I had stuck with something new and non-derivative, as I imagine this had to have been a nuisance to Andrew; though he never came across to me as impatient at all.
In any case, the Felt comic gained a lot of readers and attention, but also controversy. Andrew was being very non-confrontational about the whole "semi-canon" thing. In fact, at my request, he actually put a pendant in one of the panels which was intended to be worn by Professor Mayonaka, a character invented for the Felt comic to be the Midnight Crew's equivalent to Lord English (named, of course, after my old username). Either way, because there wasn't a clear "answer from god" on whether my comic was part of the Homestuck canon or not, it became ground zero for a small war within the forums. Realizing my mistake, I set fire to it. The Felt is gone, you can scarcely find fragments of it if you look hard enough. I didn't keep a copy.
In any case, here's our original email correspondence during the donations as proof. Ask me anything.
https://i.imgur.com/HxEHXwx.jpg
Q: Dude, you're the stuff of legend around here. Well, you're the stuff of obscure, arcane Huss-tory trivia, but given that this is MSPA we're talking about here that might as well be legend. Thanks for showing up here.
Do you ever think you had a personal impact on Hussie withdrawing from his fans, or is that more the responsibility of the Act 5 fandom explosion that happened later than your Felt adventure?
Did you ever keep up with Homestuck afterwards? If so, what did you think about the direction the story took in the second half of the comic, especially the ending? If not, would you ever want to read the rest of it, and where exactly did you quit?
Have you done any more creative projects you think are worth sharing? You're clearly a pretty creative person-- even if you didn't have much input on the Midnight Crew, your Felt adventure is remembered well for a reason.
MAYONAKA: I certainly hope not. I doubt it. Andrew has always been nothing but kind to me in our interactions. If I had to guess, the fandom probably just got too big for one guy.
I did read Homestuck through to completion. I liked it well enough, but it got a little complex and hard to follow for me personally.
I've done some art for a small indie game company called Perfect Square Studios, you can find a few of their games on Steam.
Q: How do you feel about the state of Homestuck and its fandom now compared to when you were primarily invested?
How do you feel about the Felt actually being in the comic, especially tied to the Midnight Crew and later the main antagonist?
Thanks for taking the time to come here and talk, this is a pretty fascinating explanation for things from the past. I've seen so many people talk about the pendant now that it's practically legend in my relatively newcomer eyes.
MAYONAKA: The comic eventually grew too complex for me to follow toward the end, but I am very excited for Andrew's game.
And the Felt were already in the comic before I started mine. My "Felt" comic was based on, and basically a prequel to, Andrew's sequence in which the Midnight Crew infiltrated their mansion.
Q: [deleted]
MAYONAKA: So far so good.
Q: damn, everywhere i go i feel theres still new homestuck/hussie history that i dont know about. its a really interesting phenomenon just how big homestuck is that you can never quite remember everything about it at once.
1. what did you think of the inaugural death of mister seven? that was easily the most well received of the paradox space stories.
2. also was the pendant the thing that was later retconned over with oil? im kind of curious to hear the story on that.
MAYONAKA: I've unfortunately never read any of the paradox space stories.
I don't know when or why it was retconned with oil. I don't mind that it happened. But yes, that used to be a fully exposed reference to the Mayonaka character.
Q: Did you ever listen to the two albums based on these rival gangs?
https://homestuck.bandcamp.com/album/midnight-crew-drawing-dead-2
https://homestuck.bandcamp.com/album/the-felt
What did you think of them? Did any of the musicians contact you when they made music for the Midnight Crew?
Also, did you have anything to do with Sn0wman's creation, or was that purely Hussie?
MAYONAKA: I've always loved the music composed by this community, and I enjoyed these too. Though, again, that old Midnight Crew song is a complete coincidence and isn't the origin of its name.
Nobody contacted me, and I'm not sure how or why they would have!
And Sn0wman was absolutely all Andrew. Most things were.
Q: Fuck, man, the Midnight Crew are my favorite parts of MSPA, so thanks for that. I feel this intense urge to shove all my stupid fanworks in your face like *gimme that sweet sweet approval* but I'm gonna control myself.
Anyway yeah. The Crew are awesome, I really enjoyed your Felt fanventure back before all the images died, and you're just a cool person in general. Thank you for existing.
MAYONAKA: I'd love to see them. And thanks!
Q: Most of your Felt adventure's images have been broken and missing for years! Have you ever saved them with you?
Edit: duh, should've read everything.
MAYONAKA: Sometimes I wish I had. At the time, however, I didn't want to risk its existence being a thorn in Andrew's side as he moved forward with his own story. Things were heated in the community, I might have acted rashly in salting the earth there. But what's done is done.
Q: Hey thanks for doing this man! And don't worry about whatever cringe you caused for Andrew or the forums; if there's one rule in this fandom, it's that there's always someone cringier than you. Hecc, I once re-enacted the Equius/Gamzee scene in Murderstuck at a con where there were no other Homestucks, in front of my friends who had no idea why I was so happy about a Skyrim reference.
Have you ever considered doing another adventure? There isn't really enough of us left to start a real flame war, and your ideas obviously click with us. You'd be a welcome addition to the community.
Or do you have any other projects at the moment we can support?
MAYONAKA: It's not out of the question.
Hypothetically, if I did start something, I would probably run it very much like the original Problem Sleuth. Small scope, personal, comedic, and loose.
Q: When was your tenure removed?
MAYONAKA: The funny thing is, the Professor title was a play off of Professor Moriarty from Sherlock Holmes, and was added to Mayonaka as a character to mirror English's noble title of Lord. Like Professor Moriarty, Mayonaka secretly led a criminal organization behind the guise of a scholar.
Q: What was the timeframe you ran The Felt in?
MAYONAKA: With the MSPA forums gone, that's very difficult to answer with exact dates. What I can tell you is that it started shortly after the conclusion of Andrew's first Midnight Crew "intermission" in which they fought their way through the Felt's mansion, and that it came to an end a few months after that.
Q: Do you have any idea why the pendant was covered over with ink? Were you involved in that?
Anyway, you vaguely inspired one of the best concepts in Homestuck, don't be too hard on yourself.
MAYONAKA: I didn't request it, but I think it was probably a reference to the discussions Andrew and I had had about Professor Mayonaka. He was intended to be composed of a sort of inky, black, ooze-like material; the product of experiments he'd conducted on other Dersites and himself.
Q: Did you stay in Hussie's all-encompassing basement as well?
MAYONAKA: I was outside in the dark, peering in through the tiny basement window, occasionally tapping on the glass and making strange noises.
Q: Oh shit, thanks for sharing, wonderful knowing what actually happened there. Felt was perhaps my first forum adventure, and now I'm still continuing the one I made before the forums went down...good times.
MAYONAKA: MSPAFA was a fun ride, yeah.
Q: Well, Thanks for making my Favorite characters in Homestuck AND problem sleuth.
MAYONAKA: Well, at the very least, I prompted their creation. But really Andrew is responsible for nearly everything about them.
Q: How accurate is this video?
MAYONAKA: Seems about right.
Q: ngl, I’d still pay cash dollars to read about Professor Mayonaka’s adventures
Hope you’re doing well, Internet Person
MAYONAKA: Thank you.
Q: Who's your favorite Midnight Crew member? And what were their original personalities, as shadow mages in your D&D campaign?
Are you following Hiveswap, or are you mostly dis-attached to the fandom now? Do you think the paradox space comic on the Felt took some likenesses from your Felt comic?
Sorry that I have so many questions!! I'm just excited to see an important piece of Homestuck here.
MAYONAKA: Probably Spades. In the original D&D campaign, the faction was pretty large and its members weren't really defined characters aside from Mayonaka, who was actually a minor deity living in the shadow plane.
I am meaning to play Hiveswap at some point. I have not read any Paradox Space comics, but I'll make a point of checking that out.
Q: Dude, thank you so much for making them, the Midnight Crew are probably all in my top 10 favorite characters in HS, and maybe of all time.
Anyway, a few questions:
Which of the crew was your favorite to see Hussie create?
In a battle royal, who would win in the crew (assuming base Spades, obviously)
How would you classpect the four?
Do you like the Ms. Paint ship?
And finally, (based on what you read/know) which version of Spades is your favorite, between Problem Sleuth's, Prototyped, Cyborg, and Lord English Jack?
MAYONAKA: Some of these questions assume I have better knowledge/memory of Homestuck details than I actually do. But I'm gonna give it my best shot.
Spades is my favorite member.
I feel like he could take the rest of them in a battle royale, personally.
I think they'd all just be Thieves of Shadow or something like that, at least in the original concept, it doesn't make much sense to me for them to have one of the traditional classpect powersets.
I don't really have an opinion on Ms. Paint.
I prefer the Problem Sleuth Spades.
Q: honestly cool thread. all i have to say is, if it helps, i respect the fact that you grew up and owned up to it. some people in hs and other fandoms seem unable to do that kind of thing.
also, i always figured the eddie morton connection was intentional, and now have been proven wrong. incredible
MAYONAKA: Yup, total coincidence. Midnight Crew meant nothing besides being an appropriate name for a mob with shadow/darkness themed powers.
Q: wow this is interesting, how's life after homestuck??
MAYONAKA: Life's good.
Q: Does Voices still exist on the internet, or did it disappear with the Felt and/or the MSPA forums?
MAYONAKA: Lost to time, I think. At one point there was an online archive of it hosted by someone other than me, I don't know if it's still around.
Q: Hey Xan, what's your favorite album/ song? I know you mentioned in another question how you like all of the fan work, so have you ever listened to any fan albums/what's your favorite fan song?
MAYONAKA: That's tough. I guess just off the top of my head, the dark ambiance when Rose went grimdark stuck with me.
Q: Dang, that's kind of awesome. It's kinda cool to meet someone that kinda represents the days of older, largely forum-based Homestuck fandom that I seemed to have missed completely, especially someone with mild ties to events in the comic itself!
Other people probably have more important questions to ask you than I do, but I do have something I've been wondering ever since a few seconds ago.
Have you ever read Jojostuck?
MAYONAKA: I have not.
Q: What were your plans for the Felt adventure and Mayonaka?
How much did Andrew reveal to you about things such as the Midnight Crew and their nature as carapacians, the Felt and their nature as leprechauns, and Lord English and his origins?
MAYONAKA: It's the damnedest thing, I honestly can't remember. I did have a direction, but it's totally lost to me now. In fact, I remember very little of what even happened in the Felt comic.
Basically none of that. Andrew did tell me some stuff about Lord English, but he didn't dive too deep into things. I suspect he may not have fully decided on all those things at the time, though I can't know. Homestuck always struck me as something where Andrew would breadcrumb a bunch of narrative hooks and then sort of figure out what to do with them later.
Q: Woah, it’s kind of exciting for me to get to directly communicate with someone who had some sort of influence in both in canon and the fandom! I’m a relatively new fan, having joined after the comic ended (although it’s actually been two years since I was a fan! Time does fly).
How active are you in the fandom at the moment, and if not, are you planning to rejoin it? Or do you just want to leave your past mistakes behind? We’ve all made really cringy mistakes, you shouldn’t feel bad about yourself. If Andrew was ok with it, then maybe you weren’t as bad as you remember. Hussie *can* be pretty asshole-ish to his fans.
Also, I thought you should know that I found an archive of The Felt on MSPFA. Only 5 images remain, but there are more than 100 pages of text. Just letting you know.
MAYONAKA: Andrew was never anything but completely friendly in his interactions with me. Although considerable time has passed since then.
I have not been active in the community since my adventures ended.
Q: You are seriously overestimating how much any of this matters. There's nothing to "regret" or apologize for about what you did, Homestuck is just some comic drawn by some guy. Causing controversies about canon in a random webcomic is just above "spilling pee on the toilet seat" on the crime severity ranking, and putting your pendant in the comic wasn't some major favour that Hussie did for you, it's not like it took any effort.
So don't be dramatic about it and just enjoy the fact that your OCs got to be internet famous.
MAYONAKA: https://i.imgur.com/81JIRav.png
Q: Oh i should probably mention, im kind of researching the history of MSPA-inspired adventures to write a thing about them, which is why i asked you that. And i thought of another thing to ask. So, what was the general mood around forum adventures and (how) did it change as time went on?
MAYONAKA: To me, it felt like we were preserving the spirit of Problem Sleuth. Homestuck had grown into this big thing, and kind of forgotten its roots; which isn't bad! It grew up, it became something better, but also different. So for people who wanted that small, personal feel to their adventure, that's where the forum adventures came in.
Q: Did you know that the oil retcons are completely absent from the physical release of Homestuck, except for the one covering the pendant?
MAYONAKA: That's interesting, I didn't. I haven't spoken to Andrew in ages.
Q: https://i.redd.it/dd964nyegzya1.png
Seymour on the MSPFA discord reached out to the webhost for the old Felt website, and apparently the site's contents might still exist- but the need your approval to do anything with it. He sent you an email to the address you posted regarding this as well.
If you'd be willing, could you please reach out to Seymour and/or the webs support people to see if the images can be recovered? This would be an incredible win for preservation efforts/the community in general if so. Thanks, and have a good one!
(I'm replying to this comment because you edited it so recently, so I'm hopeful you'd see this.)
MAYONAKA: On my way.